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> "Matthew" <"system[remove]tyrant"@g[ee]mail.com> wrote in
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> How about on why users have no computer rights. I get that one a lot.




I was going to add something along the same lines.

"You may be the administrator of your computer at home, but that's why your
computer takes 15 minutes to boot and you keep getting redirected to a
website offering to sell you blue pills."



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Oh, adding that to my above posted doc, don't know how I forgot about that.

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> You might want to take a look at the Internet Safety for Kids training
> Laura Chappel put out during BrainShare the last 2 years. Real
> interesting things on preditors and their methods.
>
> http://www.packet-level.com/kids/
>
> The above url has all the teaching material for the class.
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Beth Cole wrote:

> What else should I cover,


When computing always use protection. After all, you're not just
computing with your computer. Your computing with all computers it
connects to, all computers they connect to, all computers *they* connect
to...

and so on

and so on

and so on.

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Andrew Z Carpenter wrote:
>> "Matthew" <"system[remove]tyrant"@g[ee]mail.com> wrote in
>> message news:VImhk.10297$g35.2875@kovat.provo.novell.com...
>>
>> How about on why users have no computer rights. I get that one a lot.

>
>
>
> I was going to add something along the same lines.
>
> "You may be the administrator of your computer at home, but that's why your
> computer takes 15 minutes to boot and you keep getting redirected to a
> website offering to sell you blue pills."


We're not actually covering anything related to the hospital in the
brochures. This isn't about us; it is about them and what behavior they
need to practice when they are using a computer not at work. Once they
start modeling good behavior at home, getting good behavior at work is
much easier. 🙂

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I read an online review that claimed AVG isn't the best freeware AV
product -- that honor goes to Avira AntiVir Personal. I can't find the
review at the moment, but ISTR that it gave AVG an 84% score on virus
detection, while Avira AntiVir got a 94%.


AntiVir generates periodic popups touting the premium version, but it's
trivially easy to block them.

http://www.free-av.com/

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Timothy Leerhoff wrote:
> You might want to take a look at the Internet Safety for Kids training
> Laura Chappel put out during BrainShare the last 2 years. Real
> interesting things on preditors and their methods.
>
> http://www.packet-level.com/kids/
>
> The above url has all the teaching material for the class.


I have included an entire section on computer safety for kids and
suggested this site as a reference. I can't begin to summarize all of
it in the 4 column inches that I have, and it deserves to be done correctly.

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Susan wrote:
> Passwords, as in strong, not sharing, not posting on monitor, etc. : )


Added, under "Password Habits", with about 3 column inches. It includes
why they need to change passwords on a regular basis.

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Craig wrote:
> By "social", I'm assuming you're talking about giving passwords, etc to cold
> phone callers?


Passwords, social security number, etc. Yep.

419 scams & phishing are forms of social hacking/engineering. They are
just common enough to need their own sections.

(This has been a learning experience for me with MS-Publisher and WordArt.)

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Don't forget CCleaner!!!!

Keith V. Klenke wrote:
> This is what I give my users (it is slightly updated from last time i posted
> it here) - the users (especially those with kids) absolutely *love* opendns
> at home (funny how some of those same people hate it here at work:).
>
> 10 steps to a clean personal computer
>
>
>
> All of the below programs are free. There is no reason you should have to
> spend money on a seedy program that claims it may clean your computer. Said
> program may actually further infect your machine & you will never get a
> refund.
>
>
>
> 1) Ad-Aware SE - click where it says "download now"
>
> http://www.lavasoftusa.com/
>
> Once it is downloaded, install it, it is basically a next/next/next install.
>
> at the end of the install it will ask you to update the program & run a
> scan - go ahead & let it do so, it will probably take awhile (1/2 hour or
> so) to scan your computer, at the end just let it delete everything it
> finds. If it is unable to clean everything off it may ask to run on next
> reboot, tell it yes & then reboot, then rerun the scan. If your machine is
> clean it should come up with "negligible objects" for what it finds.
> Continue on with the rest of the steps as one spyware tool does not detect &
> clean 100% spyware.
>
>
>
> 2) Spybot search & destroy - this one has a few more steps, but it isn't
> that bad - click where it says "download now"
>
> http://spybot.info/en/index.html
>
> Once it is downloaded, install it, it is basically a next/next/next
>
> install, make sure the box for teatimer is checked (that is a program that
> will pop up & notify you if something is making a change on your system,
> then it is up to you to determine if it is legit or not).
>
> After the end of the install open up the program & update the program
> (update/download updates) & run a scan (search & destroy/check for
> problems) - it will probably take awhile (1/2 hour or so) to scan your
> computer, at the end just let it delete everything it finds.
>
>
>
> 3) Microsoft Windows Defender - You'll need to download this one in internet
> explorer, the rest you can download using firefox - click the box that says
> continue & follow the onscreen prompts from there.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
>
> Once it is downloaded, install it, it is basically a next/next/next install.
> at the end of the install update the program (check for updates now) & run a
> scan - go ahead & let it do so, it will probably take awhile (1/2 hour or
> so) to scan your computer, at the end just let it delete everything it
> finds.
>
>
>
> 4) AVG Antivirus - this is a direct download
>
> AVG Antivirus - this is a direct download
>
> http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/
>
> at the end of the install it will ask you to update the program & run a
> scan - go ahead & let it do so, it will probably take awhile (1/2 hour or
> so) to scan your computer, at the end just let it delete everything it
> finds. Run this even if you have a fully functional antivirus program
> already.
>
>
>
> 5) Spyware Doctor (part of google pack) - click where it says "Install
> Software"
>
> http://pack.google.com
>
> Select/deslect anything else you want, click Agree and Download, and at this
> point sit back and watch it install. After it is installed, run the updater
> & scan your system.
>
>
>
> 6) Hijack this - http://www.merijn.org/programs.php
>
> This is the big bat you pull out when the previous apps fail. You really
> have to know what you are doing to use this application though.
>
>
>
> 7) Once you are "clean" you should be able to run Windows update -
> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com - Spyware/viruses will sometimes prevent
> you from getting the security updates windows requires, so even if you have
> your windows update set to automatic, re-run windows update manually to
> double check. Once there update to the latest version if needed, then run a
> "custom" scan. Run all the updates, reboot when finished, rerun it again to
> triple check after rebooting.
>
>
>
> 😎 Run the thorough system inspection from here -
> http://secunia.com/software_inspector/ then update to the latest versions.
> Rerun the scan afterwards, and if it still says you have insecure versions
> uninstall them.
>
>
>
> 9) Run web-based antivirus scanners, these are run-time only scanners; they
> do not provide background protection.
>
> Trenmicro - http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
>
> Symantec - http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/home.asp
>
> Kaspersky - http://www.kaspersky.com/virusscanner
>
> Panda - http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/ActiveScan.htm
>
> eTrust (CA) - http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
>
> Mcafee freescan - http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp
>
> BitDefender Free Online Virus Scan -
> http://www.bitdefender.com/scan8/ie.html
>
>
>
>
>
> 10) Practice "safe computing" -
> http://www.sophos.com/security/best-practice/, consider change web browsers
> from Internet Explorer to Firefox or Opera, changing email applications from
> outlook/outlook express to Thunderbird or Google mail (gmail can check all
> your mail accounts & put them in one place and has an amazing spam filter).
> A great enhancement to this is OpenDNS. This is a free service for home or
> business use that will pre-filter out bad websites before your computer can
> even get to them. The website is http://www.opendns.com/ and it will walk
> you through configuring your home network for use with this free bad-website
> blocking service (adware/phishing/etc), as well as being able to block other
> types of sites. This is especially handy for parents who have trouble
> keeping kids off "those" kind of websites.
>
>
>
>
>
> This should help, it might take awhile, but it should clear up your
> problems. If you are *still* receiving popups & problems, boot into safe
> mode & run these programs (to get into safe mode, shutdown the computer,
> turn it on & start hitting the F8 key, it will then bring you to a menu,
> where you can choose safe mode). If you are still having problems after
> that, let me know & I can make a house call. After you are done with all
> this & are sure your computer is clean, then I would highly recommend you
> change all eBay/online banking/etc account passwords.
>
>
>
> Additional tools & advice -
>
> McAfee AVERT Stinger http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/
>
> ClamWin Free Antivirus - http://www.clamwin.com/
>
> Avast Free antivirus - http://www.avast.com/eng/programs.html
>
> NOD32 antivirus - http://www.eset.com/index.php
>
> F-prot antivirus - http://www.f-prot.com/
>
> Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool -
> http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx
>
>
>
>
>
> If you have broadband at home you should consider buying a firewall/router.
> Even if you only have one computer at home, putting it behind the
> firewall/router will give you another layer of protection. Having your
> computer "naked" (directly connected) on the internet is very inviting to
> spyware/malware/hackers.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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doc updated - oddly, I don't actually know how that one missed my list, as
that is the one I use on my wife's laptop because she likes it more than
AVG.

4) Antivirus - Your choice, AVGfree or AntiVir Personal

Avira Antivir Personal - click download now!

http://www.free-av.com/en/download/1/download_avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.html

at the end of the install it will ask you to update the program & run a
scan - go ahead & let it do so, it will probably take awhile (1/2 hour or
so) to scan your computer, at the end just let it delete everything it
finds. Run this even if you have a fully functional antivirus program
already.

or

AVG Antivirus - this is a direct download

http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/

at the end of the install it will ask you to update the program & run a
scan - go ahead & let it do so, it will probably take awhile (1/2 hour or
so) to scan your computer, at the end just let it delete everything it
finds. Run this even if you have a fully functional antivirus program
already.


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>
>
> I read an online review that claimed AVG isn't the best freeware AV
> product -- that honor goes to Avira AntiVir Personal. I can't find the
> review at the moment, but ISTR that it gave AVG an 84% score on virus
> detection, while Avira AntiVir got a 94%.
>
>
> AntiVir generates periodic popups touting the premium version, but it's
> trivially easy to block them.
>
> http://www.free-av.com/
>



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thanks added to the "Additional tools & advice - " section. That is another
tool I shouldnt have missed, it is deployed on all machines I have ever
touched 😛

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> Don't forget CCleaner!!!!
>
> Keith V. Klenke wrote:
>> This is what I give my users (it is slightly updated from last time i
>> posted it here) - the users (especially those with kids) absolutely
>> *love* opendns at home (funny how some of those same people hate it here
>> at work:).
>>
>> 10 steps to a clean personal computer
>>
>>
>>
>> All of the below programs are free. There is no reason you should have to
>> spend money on a seedy program that claims it may clean your computer.
>> Said program may actually further infect your machine & you will never
>> get a refund.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) Ad-Aware SE - click where it says "download now"
>>
>> http://www.lavasoftusa.com/
>>
>> Once it is downloaded, install it, it is basically a next/next/next
>> install.
>>
>> at the end of the install it will ask you to update the program & run a
>> scan - go ahead & let it do so, it will probably take awhile (1/2 hour or
>> so) to scan your computer, at the end just let it delete everything it
>> finds. If it is unable to clean everything off it may ask to run on next
>> reboot, tell it yes & then reboot, then rerun the scan. If your machine
>> is clean it should come up with "negligible objects" for what it finds.
>> Continue on with the rest of the steps as one spyware tool does not
>> detect & clean 100% spyware.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2) Spybot search & destroy - this one has a few more steps, but it isn't
>> that bad - click where it says "download now"
>>
>> http://spybot.info/en/index.html
>>
>> Once it is downloaded, install it, it is basically a next/next/next
>>
>> install, make sure the box for teatimer is checked (that is a program
>> that will pop up & notify you if something is making a change on your
>> system, then it is up to you to determine if it is legit or not).
>>
>> After the end of the install open up the program & update the program
>> (update/download updates) & run a scan (search & destroy/check for
>> problems) - it will probably take awhile (1/2 hour or so) to scan your
>> computer, at the end just let it delete everything it finds.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3) Microsoft Windows Defender - You'll need to download this one in
>> internet explorer, the rest you can download using firefox - click the
>> box that says continue & follow the onscreen prompts from there.
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx
>>
>> Once it is downloaded, install it, it is basically a next/next/next
>> install. at the end of the install update the program (check for updates
>> now) & run a scan - go ahead & let it do so, it will probably take awhile
>> (1/2 hour or so) to scan your computer, at the end just let it delete
>> everything it finds.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4) AVG Antivirus - this is a direct download
>>
>> AVG Antivirus - this is a direct download
>>
>> http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/
>>
>> at the end of the install it will ask you to update the program & run a
>> scan - go ahead & let it do so, it will probably take awhile (1/2 hour or
>> so) to scan your computer, at the end just let it delete everything it
>> finds. Run this even if you have a fully functional antivirus program
>> already.
>>
>>
>>
>> 5) Spyware Doctor (part of google pack) - click where it says "Install
>> Software"
>>
>> http://pack.google.com
>>
>> Select/deslect anything else you want, click Agree and Download, and at
>> this point sit back and watch it install. After it is installed, run the
>> updater & scan your system.
>>
>>
>>
>> 6) Hijack this - http://www.merijn.org/programs.php
>>
>> This is the big bat you pull out when the previous apps fail. You really
>> have to know what you are doing to use this application though.
>>
>>
>>
>> 7) Once you are "clean" you should be able to run Windows update -
>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com - Spyware/viruses will sometimes
>> prevent you from getting the security updates windows requires, so even
>> if you have your windows update set to automatic, re-run windows update
>> manually to double check. Once there update to the latest version if
>> needed, then run a "custom" scan. Run all the updates, reboot when
>> finished, rerun it again to triple check after rebooting.
>>
>>
>>
>> 😎 Run the thorough system inspection from here -
>> http://secunia.com/software_inspector/ then update to the latest
>> versions. Rerun the scan afterwards, and if it still says you have
>> insecure versions uninstall them.
>>
>>
>>
>> 9) Run web-based antivirus scanners, these are run-time only scanners;
>> they do not provide background protection.
>>
>> Trenmicro - http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
>>
>> Symantec - http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/home.asp
>>
>> Kaspersky - http://www.kaspersky.com/virusscanner
>>
>> Panda - http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/ActiveScan.htm
>>
>> eTrust (CA) - http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
>>
>> Mcafee freescan - http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp
>>
>> BitDefender Free Online Virus Scan -
>> http://www.bitdefender.com/scan8/ie.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 10) Practice "safe computing" -
>> http://www.sophos.com/security/best-practice/, consider change web
>> browsers from Internet Explorer to Firefox or Opera, changing email
>> applications from outlook/outlook express to Thunderbird or Google mail
>> (gmail can check all your mail accounts & put them in one place and has
>> an amazing spam filter). A great enhancement to this is OpenDNS. This is
>> a free service for home or business use that will pre-filter out bad
>> websites before your computer can even get to them. The website is
>> http://www.opendns.com/ and it will walk you through configuring your
>> home network for use with this free bad-website blocking service
>> (adware/phishing/etc), as well as being able to block other types of
>> sites. This is especially handy for parents who have trouble keeping kids
>> off "those" kind of websites.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This should help, it might take awhile, but it should clear up your
>> problems. If you are *still* receiving popups & problems, boot into safe
>> mode & run these programs (to get into safe mode, shutdown the computer,
>> turn it on & start hitting the F8 key, it will then bring you to a menu,
>> where you can choose safe mode). If you are still having problems after
>> that, let me know & I can make a house call. After you are done with all
>> this & are sure your computer is clean, then I would highly recommend you
>> change all eBay/online banking/etc account passwords.
>>
>>
>>
>> Additional tools & advice -
>>
>> McAfee AVERT Stinger http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/
>>
>> ClamWin Free Antivirus - http://www.clamwin.com/
>>
>> Avast Free antivirus - http://www.avast.com/eng/programs.html
>>
>> NOD32 antivirus - http://www.eset.com/index.php
>>
>> F-prot antivirus - http://www.f-prot.com/
>>
>> Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool -
>> http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have broadband at home you should consider buying a
>> firewall/router. Even if you only have one computer at home, putting it
>> behind the firewall/router will give you another layer of protection.
>> Having your computer "naked" (directly connected) on the internet is very
>> inviting to spyware/malware/hackers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


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Not saving passwords via their browser, not storing account info on their
machines, and clearing out private info (i.e. cookies and cache).

>>> On 7/22/2008 at 10:14 AM, in message

<DXlhk.10274$g35.7434@kovat.provo.novell.com>, Beth Cole<eacole@gmail.com>
wrote:
> For hospital IS week next month, I'm writing a brochure on practicing
> safe computing. I've written sections on spam, phishing, social
> hacking/engineering and 419 scams. What else should I cover, that I
> can
> do 2 to 3 paragraphs on?
> Not
> The theory is that if we get them into using good habits at home, we're
>
> less likely to have problems with them at work. Will it work? I don't
>
> know. But it is at least worth a try.
>
> Beth

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