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why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

*Note*
We do not discourage or encourage the use of any specific distribution
of Linux,
we simply do not have any experience with Novell Open Enterprise
Server for TRAX, so I
can not say whether it will work or not. Historically, enterprise
distributions do not have the same high level of community support, as

completely open distributions, and thus, they very often lack things
like a
complete 32bit compatibility package set, and they often implement code

changes, without making the user community aware.
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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:16:01 +0000, adelatorre wrote:

> *Note*
> We do not discourage or encourage the use of any specific distribution
> of Linux,
> we simply do not have any experience with Novell Open Enterprise Server
> for TRAX, so I
> can not say whether it will work or not. Historically, enterprise
> distributions do not have the same high level of community support, as
>
> completely open distributions, and thus, they very often lack things
> like a
> complete 32bit compatibility package set, and they often implement code
>
> changes, without making the user community aware.


App vendor needs to be told that OES2 is based on SLES10, based on
openSUSE. They also should look at what we're actually doing for support
instead of *assuming*.

Jim



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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:16:01 +0000, adelatorre wrote:

> and they often implement code
>
> changes, without making the user community aware.


And I would add that this is bogus; it's not legal under the GPL to make
code changes and not contribute them upstream. Now if the upstream
provider rejects them, sure, that can happen, but it's not permitted
under the GPL to distribute modified versions of GPL'ed software without
providing the code including the modifications.

Jim



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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:36:24 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:

> it's not legal under the GPL to make
> code changes and not contribute them upstream


Gah, no, that's not right. The modified code just needs to be released.
Can't brain today.

Jim



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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

Jim Henderson wrote:
> App vendor needs to be told that OES2 is based on SLES10, based on
> openSUSE. They also should look at what we're actually doing for
> support instead of assuming.


Why? I mean, what sets you apart, to their eyes, from any other
distribution a customer might be using? Honest question, by the way,
not just stirring the proverbial...

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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:36:24 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
> > it's not legal under the GPL to make
> > code changes and not contribute them upstream

>
> Gah, no, that's not right. The modified code just needs to be
> released. Can't brain today.


.... I was going to say! I knew you knew better than that *grin* Nor
is there any requirement to explicitly point out one's changes to the
end-user, as far as I know, just to note which source files were
modified and make the source available 🙂

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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

What are the top five Linux distros?
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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:37:41 +0000, Ben A L Jemmett wrote:

> Why? I mean, what sets you apart, to their eyes, from any other
> distribution a customer might be using?


OES2 is an add-on for SLES10; it seems that the vendor in question
doesn't understand that.

Jim



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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:39:18 +0000, Ben A L Jemmett wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:36:24 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> > it's not legal under the GPL to make
>> > code changes and not contribute them upstream

>>
>> Gah, no, that's not right. The modified code just needs to be
>> released. Can't brain today.

>
> ... I was going to say! I knew you knew better than that *grin* Nor is
> there any requirement to explicitly point out one's changes to the
> end-user, as far as I know, just to note which source files were
> modified and make the source available 🙂


True, you don't have to say what you changed, you're just required to
distribute the source files. You probably don't even need to say which
files were changed.

Jim



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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

> What are the top five Linux distros?
Depends who you ask I suppose.

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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

And if you count forks.


GofBorg wrote:
>> What are the top five Linux distros?

> Depends who you ask I suppose.
>

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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

unsigned wrote:

> And if you count forks.


I prefer spoons.

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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

Joseph Marton wrote:


> I prefer spoons.


sporks. best of both cutleries.

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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

One of the top ten inventions of the millennium! 🙂

Kathryn Carruthers wrote:
>
> sporks. best of both cutleries.
>

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Re: why my app vendor tells me oes2 is not supported

dan c. wrote:

> One of the top ten inventions of the millennium! 🙂
>

and compatible with most know food types (requiring no support from the
veg, sauce or even various dessert vendors)


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