Merge TeamWorks, Vibe and Filr into a single solution

Idea ID 2701661

Merge TeamWorks, Vibe and Filr into a single solution

We want one single MicroFocus team collaboration solution which integrates well with (at least) any other MicroFocus product. This would make integration with 3rd party solutions easier also, where applicable. Mentioned products originate all from the same source (Vibe) and instead of competing for development-, support- and sales (MF and partners) time we better work together communicating one platform to (potential) customers. Sure any of these products have a certain fit, but at the same time a huge overlap is keeping data silo’s for customers in place, where the idea once was to break these borders. At the same time any of these products have valuable features the other is missing. We feel the market is moving from single purpose products to more integrated, open, cross border, secure, not locking into, team driven solutions. We feel too much time is spent fighting for enhancements in any of these products that would benefit the other products as well. This is mainly [opinion] caused by how these products are traditionally split into product groups (groupware, file). This no longer serves customers in an optimal way and leads to losing customers (opportunity) instead of gaining those as in many cases neither product tends to be a (perfect) fit or is not able to blend into the next step a customer is taking.

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Outstanding Contributor.
Outstanding Contributor.

This is a very good idea and integrate all in Groupwise.

Do you have forget GMS? 

Super Contributor.
Super Contributor.

Hello @greiner,

No I did not forget GMS, since that is not part of this solution. GMS is only an activesync solution for GW. The problem is MF has serveral solutions doing partly the same and are persistent in keeping these alive as they are. Result is neither of my customers fit in either silo or you have to use two or tree of them to get the system to do what you want. Then those 3 do not integrate with each other and all integrated half in GroupWise (TeamWorks may the integration exception here) and other MF solutions. This has been an unworkable situation for almost 5y, so the result is we are not able to (up)sell any of those solutions to (new) customers (not limited to these three problem-products descibed, mind there is still no MacOS client for GroupWise...) and resulted in countless moves to O365, Google and other solutions. Besibe that I personally would like to move back from using Outlook to GroupWise client/system (but that is the same for any expiriened GW user I know) any time as Outlook is also a crap client to work with; but you have to admin it integrated pretty well in the Microsoft ecosystem which we cannot say from GroupWise.

Since last year the situation has changed as the progress with MF collaboration solutions is moving too slow for customer, or not at all as reflected in this Idea history. So now customers are looking at and moving to Nextcloud as that is a viable and open collaboration solution. Since then myu suggestions/idea's went to:

1) Replace Teamworks in the Enterprise Messaging Suite with Nextcloud. It makes no longer sense for customers to create yeat another silo as that will lock then in yet again. Then the progress is sooo slow, this is never going to fly. Better hop on a running train as we have done with the Content Editor (LibreOffice Online) in TeamWorks and Filr.

2) Make integration points between Nextloud and GroupWise as there are with Outlook (a Nextcloud plugin) for attaching/saving documents in NC using GW, sycning contacts and calendars between NC and GW, etc. This can have an advantage also for GW itself as it will add pretty stable GW system to the NC ecosystem and a good mail alternative for those moving to NC or already leveraging that solution but are still stuck with Outlook/Google/other mail solutions. The inevitable migration from GW to another mail system is just a matter of time when there are no integrations developed

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For the record here is the missing IDEA history after ths portal migration:

---- Matt J -----
This comment could probably be attached to many of your other ideas Sebastiaan.

What I'd like to see is MF launch their own "Full" equivalent to Gsuite or Office 365 - and this idea would be essential to it.

Enterprise Messaging (awful name) is a start but to be competitive it needs to be the full product and must include Filr and Vibe and these must include collaborative document editing. They must also be integrated with each other far more deeply than they are now.

Right now if you use Gsuite it really feels like one product. Gmail and Drive and Hangouts and Calendar are tightly integrated. The Filr and Vibe integration with Groupwise feels like an after thought right now.

Right now there's a new GroupWise web client, and a new Filr web client being developed. Ideally these two teams would be working closely to ensure that they look and feel like they are two parts of the same product. So that IF you choose to enable integration between them they combine perfectly to provide one seamless solution.


---- Sebastiaan V -----
Thx Matt, that is indeed what I have in mind.


---- Matt J -----
Surely there must be people in MF that can see this too? They've got everything they need to make a big push in this space. It just needs tying together and surely that means different product teams - and the marketing team - all working closely together.

This new offering would actually have advantages over Gsuite in that it can tie back in to on-premises file servers and directories.

A frustration with Gsuite is that it is isolated from your current on-premises file storage. That issue wouldn't exist with the MF solution: No rip and replace required. No need to migrate existing files to the cloud. Just plug in the back end to your existing servers and you're done. That's always been the promise of Filr and its a good product but without the other parts - Vibe, GroupWise, Teamworks, Collaborative editing, Video calling - it's not enough.


---- Sebastiaan V -----
Sure they are there, but nobody seems to be able (or willing) to act upon this. Someone in the upper management needs to recognise the way these products are organised is not optimal.


----- Paul B -----
I agree but good luck, I have been trying to get this message across to the product managers for years but so far they consider them all separate solutions with separate customer bases and tell me this is not what their customers have been asking for. And yep it kills them resource wise and we get 3 less functional products. Add messenger into the mix as well and its really messy.


----- Sebastiaan V -----
Have been pushing this for years myselves too. Done all the talking with PM and I'm aware of their reasoning and opinions. Those do not meet my customers in this case so primary goal of this IDEA is to collect all those supporting the IDEA. If nothing happens the inevitable result will be customers moving away which is fine too. Nothing is perfect, but have moved to Nextcloud which has most whistle and bells found in either solution.


----- Sebastiaan V -----
As MF is IMO on the wrong path and not planning to integrate mentioned solutions I created an new Idea "Why it makes sense for GroupWise to integrate with Nextcloud"
https://community.microfocus.com/t5/GroupWise-Idea-Exchange/Why-it-makes-sense-for-GroupWise-to-integrate-with-Nextcloud/idi-p/2743229

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