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2007-12-05
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SUSE 10 -xen
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2007-12-05
04:45
Re: SUSE 10 -xen
Garrett Nunan,
> Sorry- Basically what I am asking is are there any limitations to the
> Number of xen I can put on one server using SUSE 10
Sorry, that I do not know, but as long as you have memory, I would
think that with a server running 16gb of RAM quad processor, 20 to 40
guests would be the limit.
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> Sorry- Basically what I am asking is are there any limitations to the
> Number of xen I can put on one server using SUSE 10
Sorry, that I do not know, but as long as you have memory, I would
think that with a server running 16gb of RAM quad processor, 20 to 40
guests would be the limit.
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Jared Jennings - Data Technique, Inc.
Novell Support Forums Sysop
My Blog and Wiki with Tips, Tricks, and Tutorials
http://jaredjennings.org
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2007-12-05
05:41
Re: SUSE 10 -xen
Thanks -
I also have a question on the possibility of the IO to the SAN and whether
that would present a bottle neck -
When you say 20 to 40 is this assessment based on 512mb of Ram per Xen or
are ther other factors which contribute to the limitations?
Thanks again
"Jared Jennings" <jaredjennings@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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> Garrett Nunan,
>
>> Sorry- Basically what I am asking is are there any limitations to the
>> Number of xen I can put on one server using SUSE 10
>
> Sorry, that I do not know, but as long as you have memory, I would
> think that with a server running 16gb of RAM quad processor, 20 to 40
> guests would be the limit.
>
> --
> Jared Jennings - Data Technique, Inc.
> Novell Support Forums Sysop
> My Blog and Wiki with Tips, Tricks, and Tutorials
> http://jaredjennings.org
I also have a question on the possibility of the IO to the SAN and whether
that would present a bottle neck -
When you say 20 to 40 is this assessment based on 512mb of Ram per Xen or
are ther other factors which contribute to the limitations?
Thanks again
"Jared Jennings" <jaredjennings@no-mx.forums.novell.com> wrote in message
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> Garrett Nunan,
>
>> Sorry- Basically what I am asking is are there any limitations to the
>> Number of xen I can put on one server using SUSE 10
>
> Sorry, that I do not know, but as long as you have memory, I would
> think that with a server running 16gb of RAM quad processor, 20 to 40
> guests would be the limit.
>
> --
> Jared Jennings - Data Technique, Inc.
> Novell Support Forums Sysop
> My Blog and Wiki with Tips, Tricks, and Tutorials
> http://jaredjennings.org
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2007-12-05
14:59
Re: SUSE 10 -xen
Garrett Nunan,
> When you say 20 to 40 is this assessment based on 512mb of Ram per
> Xen or are ther other factors which contribute to the limitations?
Yes, based on ram. Although the RAM is shared between guests. So you do
not have to actually allocate 512 and really I specify that each guest
has 1024, but yet it's shared around.
Generally, the SAN is not a bottle-neck. vm's are not meant to be DB
servers, which use the SAN heavily. I would only use the guests for
light application type stuff and maybe some simple DB stuff. Although,
this does not always hold true. I have several customers running
iFolder on guests and it runs fine.
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Jared Jennings - Data Technique, Inc.
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> When you say 20 to 40 is this assessment based on 512mb of Ram per
> Xen or are ther other factors which contribute to the limitations?
Yes, based on ram. Although the RAM is shared between guests. So you do
not have to actually allocate 512 and really I specify that each guest
has 1024, but yet it's shared around.
Generally, the SAN is not a bottle-neck. vm's are not meant to be DB
servers, which use the SAN heavily. I would only use the guests for
light application type stuff and maybe some simple DB stuff. Although,
this does not always hold true. I have several customers running
iFolder on guests and it runs fine.
--
Jared Jennings - Data Technique, Inc.
Novell Support Forums Sysop
My Blog and Wiki with Tips, Tricks, and Tutorials
http://jaredjennings.org
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2007-12-06
08:22
Re: SUSE 10 -xen
On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:41:19 GMT, Garrett Nunan wrote:
> When you say 20 to 40 is this assessment based on 512mb of Ram per Xen or
> are ther other factors which contribute to the limitations?
hmm wonder why this is in zcm 10 server install.. it should be in
sles.virtualization..
whatever... 20 to 40 is based on the average you can see on virtualization
servers with around 16 to 32 GB ram.. AND average normal servers.. which
would be telephone servers, license servers, etc.. servers which don't use
LOTs of memory, cpu, nic or hd io..
in general you can say for 1 core you count 4 gb of ram.. which average
usage you can run 5 to 10 machines on a box.. times 4 = 16gb and 4 cores =
20 to 40..
just rough figures and I have customers running 2 vms on a dual quad with
64 gb ram.. and that system is running full power.. so ymmv
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> When you say 20 to 40 is this assessment based on 512mb of Ram per Xen or
> are ther other factors which contribute to the limitations?
hmm wonder why this is in zcm 10 server install.. it should be in
sles.virtualization..
whatever... 20 to 40 is based on the average you can see on virtualization
servers with around 16 to 32 GB ram.. AND average normal servers.. which
would be telephone servers, license servers, etc.. servers which don't use
LOTs of memory, cpu, nic or hd io..
in general you can say for 1 core you count 4 gb of ram.. which average
usage you can run 5 to 10 machines on a box.. times 4 = 16gb and 4 cores =
20 to 40..
just rough figures and I have customers running 2 vms on a dual quad with
64 gb ram.. and that system is running full power.. so ymmv
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2007-12-06
18:14
Re: SUSE 10 -xen
Marcus Breiden,
> just rough figures and I have customers running 2 vms on a dual quad
> with 64 gb ram.. and that system is running full power.. so ymmv
> --
Yet, I wonder if there is a code-level limit to the amount of XEN
guests.
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> just rough figures and I have customers running 2 vms on a dual quad
> with 64 gb ram.. and that system is running full power.. so ymmv
> --
Yet, I wonder if there is a code-level limit to the amount of XEN
guests.
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Jared Jennings - Data Technique, Inc.
Novell Support Forums Sysop
My Blog and Wiki with Tips, Tricks, and Tutorials
http://jaredjennings.org