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Zenworks 7 to Zenworks 11 hints, tips, best practice

Hello,

I am sure that I have read a document which gives good advice on migrating Zenworks 7 to zenwork 11...but now I cannot find it.

I currently have a Zenworks 7 on OES netware, and a Zenworks 11 on Suse Ent 10 sp3. The only docs I can find indicate that a Zenwork 11.1 should not be on the same network as a Zenworks 7 server.

I would like to complete the migration to Zenworks 11 (begun by previous network manager) but would really like some docs, tips, hints, or best practice.

Can anybody point me in the correct direction ?

Thankyou

Regards

Peter
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Re: Zenworks 7 to Zenworks 11 hints, tips, best practice

You really should have been at BrainShare this year. They did handson
sessions on migration. Now, when you say:

"The only docs I can find indicate that a Zenwork 11.1 should
not be on the same network as a Zenworks 7 server."

What doc is that? ZCM and ZEN can coexist, just make sure you set up
imaging etc properly.

You also say "complete the migration" at what stage are you currently?

> I am sure that I have read a document which gives good advice on
> migrating Zenworks 7 to zenwork 11...but now I cannot find it.
>
> I currently have a Zenworks 7 on OES netware, and a Zenworks 11 on Suse
> Ent 10 sp3. The only docs I can find indicate that a Zenwork 11.1 should
> not be on the same network as a Zenworks 7 server.
>
> I would like to complete the migration to Zenworks 11 (begun by
> previous network manager) but would really like some docs, tips, hints,
> or best practice.
>
> Can anybody point me in the correct direction ?




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Re: Zenworks 7 to Zenworks 11 hints, tips, best practice

And Since they can co-exist and are oblivious to each other, you can
setup ZCM 11.1 and just play with it for a little but and then worry
about migrating items over.

One key thing about ZCM is that is is not ZDM.

It is a completely new product that works very differently even though
it has many of the same features.

If you try to accomplish everything using ZCM the way ZDM did it, you
will find it hard. Rather look at how you can accomplish the task using
ZCM. That is one of the hardest things ZDM users have since the
difference between ZFD 2.0 and ZDM 7.0 is much smaller than the move to ZCM.

Overall, there are many more features and options in ZCM but they do not
line up one to one.


On 11/4/2011 3:04 AM, Anders Gustafsson wrote:
> You really should have been at BrainShare this year. They did handson
> sessions on migration. Now, when you say:
>
> "The only docs I can find indicate that a Zenwork 11.1 should
> not be on the same network as a Zenworks 7 server."
>
> What doc is that? ZCM and ZEN can coexist, just make sure you set up
> imaging etc properly.
>
> You also say "complete the migration" at what stage are you currently?
>
>> I am sure that I have read a document which gives good advice on
>> migrating Zenworks 7 to zenwork 11...but now I cannot find it.
>>
>> I currently have a Zenworks 7 on OES netware, and a Zenworks 11 on Suse
>> Ent 10 sp3. The only docs I can find indicate that a Zenwork 11.1 should
>> not be on the same network as a Zenworks 7 server.
>>
>> I would like to complete the migration to Zenworks 11 (begun by
>> previous network manager) but would really like some docs, tips, hints,
>> or best practice.
>>
>> Can anybody point me in the correct direction ?

>
>
>
> - Anders Gustafsson (NKP)
> The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)
>
> Novell has a new enhancement request system,
> or what is now known as the requirement portal.
> If customers would like to give input in the upcoming
> releases of Novell products then they should go to
> http://www.novell.com/rms
>



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Re: Zenworks 7 to Zenworks 11 hints, tips, best practice

Hi Anders and Craig,

You really should have been at BrainShare this year. They did handson
sessions on migration. Now, when you say:


Brainshare - that would be nice.


"The only docs I can find indicate that a Zenwork 11.1 should
not be on the same network as a Zenworks 7 server."


I was only stating what I believe the zen11.1 docs state. I have found the version 11 docs... a link to them was embedded in the 11.1 docs. I have done some reading and will soon be having a play migrating apps.

MIGRATION Status: We have been using the zen11 server for imaging, but now would like to decommision the Zen 7 server which is currently handling apps, and policies.

Thank you for your Assistance. I am sure I will probably have a few issues when I have time to move forward on the app migration.

Regards

Peter
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Re: Zenworks 7 to Zenworks 11 hints, tips, best practice

Pjdawson,
> I was only stating what I believe the zen11.1 docs state. I have found
> the version 11 docs... a link to them was embedded in the 11.1 docs. I
> have done some reading and will soon be having a play migrating apps.


Reason why I asked was because if the docs are wrong then I will reprt
it.

> MIGRATION Status: We have been using the zen11 server for imaging, but
> now would like to decommision the Zen 7 server which is currently
> handling apps, and policies.


OK. Then you need to migrate (automatically or manually) apps and
policies.

- Anders Gustafsson (NKP)
The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

Novell has a new enhancement request system,
or what is now known as the requirement portal.
If customers would like to give input in the upcoming
releases of Novell products then they should go to
http://www.novell.com/rms

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Re: Zenworks 7 to Zenworks 11 hints, tips, best practice

Anders,

I too am going to migrate from Zenworks Desktop Managment 7 to Zenworks Configuration Management 11 sp1 and reading through the documents I found what others mentioned on the forum.

"2.1 ZENworks Desktop Management

The following information applies to ZENworks 11 SP1 coexistence with ZENworks 7.x Desktop Management (ZDM 7). ZENworks 11 SP1 does not coexist with ZENworks for Desktops 4.x or ZENworks 6.5 Desktop Management.
2.1.1 Server Coexistence

The ZENworks 11 SP1 Server cannot coexist with the ZDM 7 Server or Agent. Do not install a ZENworks 11 SP1 Server on any network server that already has a ZDM 7 Server or Agent installed.


So is this wrong?

Thanks..
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Re: Zenworks 7 to Zenworks 11 hints, tips, best practice

crobison;2182326 wrote:
The ZENworks 11 SP1 Server cannot coexist with the ZDM 7 Server or Agent. Do not install a ZENworks 11 SP1 Server on any network server that already has a ZDM 7 Server or Agent installed.


So is this wrong?


No, that is not wrong.

What that means is that you should not try to install ZCM on a system (server or workstation) that already has ZfD/ZDM components on it. The older ZenWorks (2 upto 7) and newer ZENworks (version 10 and up) components do not speak to or work with each other. Installing one means removing the other... Looking at it from a single system/device.

So you can have ZfD/ZDM and ZCM working next to each other without issues... just make sure you chose to either run ZfD/ZDM or run ZCM services/agents on one same system.

-Willem
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