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executable installs two programs - how to handle program icon?

I installed the GroupWise client with a ZCM distributed program icon.
Works great. I now have an installation executable that installs two
programs. So far I haven't been able to figure out how to create two
separate installs. Running the install a second time gives me the
modify, repair, remove options. So if I installed both apps at the
same time, how do I provide two shortcuts? I assume I can create two
Actions, Launch, Launch Executable actions with each one pointing to
the appropriate program. But how do they get unique icons? Under
Summary, General, Icon, I only see the option for one icon. Is there
another way to handle this? Suggestions?

Ken
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Re: executable installs two programs - how to handle program icon?

Have a System Requirement on the Install Action to check to see if it is
installed.


On 2/28/2013 3:50 PM, KeN Etter wrote:
> I installed the GroupWise client with a ZCM distributed program icon.
> Works great. I now have an installation executable that installs two
> programs. So far I haven't been able to figure out how to create two
> separate installs. Running the install a second time gives me the
> modify, repair, remove options. So if I installed both apps at the
> same time, how do I provide two shortcuts? I assume I can create two
> Actions, Launch, Launch Executable actions with each one pointing to
> the appropriate program. But how do they get unique icons? Under
> Summary, General, Icon, I only see the option for one icon. Is there
> another way to handle this? Suggestions?
>
> Ken
>



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Re: executable installs two programs - how to handle program icon?

On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 21:08:20 GMT, craig wilson
<craig_d_wilson@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Have a System Requirement on the Install Action to check to see if it is
>installed.


Sorry Craig, I must be a little dense this afternoon...what does that
do for me?

>On 2/28/2013 3:50 PM, KeN Etter wrote:
>> I installed the GroupWise client with a ZCM distributed program icon.
>> Works great. I now have an installation executable that installs two
>> programs. So far I haven't been able to figure out how to create two
>> separate installs. Running the install a second time gives me the
>> modify, repair, remove options. So if I installed both apps at the
>> same time, how do I provide two shortcuts? I assume I can create two
>> Actions, Launch, Launch Executable actions with each one pointing to
>> the appropriate program. But how do they get unique icons? Under
>> Summary, General, Icon, I only see the option for one icon. Is there
>> another way to handle this? Suggestions?
>>
>> Ken
>>

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Re: executable installs two programs - how to handle program icon?

I may be missing your point, but I presume it is something like MS
Office and you want a ZCM Word, Excel, and Powerpoint Icon.

If they are installed you want it to run, otherwise install.

So you would create 3 bundles.
One for Word, Excel, and Powerpoint.

Whatever one you click on will run that program, but if office is not
installed it will install the same office program but not try to
reinstall if it exists.

Put the Check on the install action so it does not reinstall if installed.



On 2/28/2013 4:36 PM, KeN Etter wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 21:08:20 GMT, craig wilson
> <craig_d_wilson@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Have a System Requirement on the Install Action to check to see if it is
>> installed.

>
> Sorry Craig, I must be a little dense this afternoon...what does that
> do for me?
>
>> On 2/28/2013 3:50 PM, KeN Etter wrote:
>>> I installed the GroupWise client with a ZCM distributed program icon.
>>> Works great. I now have an installation executable that installs two
>>> programs. So far I haven't been able to figure out how to create two
>>> separate installs. Running the install a second time gives me the
>>> modify, repair, remove options. So if I installed both apps at the
>>> same time, how do I provide two shortcuts? I assume I can create two
>>> Actions, Launch, Launch Executable actions with each one pointing to
>>> the appropriate program. But how do they get unique icons? Under
>>> Summary, General, Icon, I only see the option for one icon. Is there
>>> another way to handle this? Suggestions?
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>



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Re: executable installs two programs - how to handle program icon?

I think I am getting it now... The software is two engineering
applications. The install is delivered as a single executable. Run
the install once it installs both apps. Run it again it wants to
modify, repair, or remove both apps. So let me run this past you.

I create two bundles. Both have the same install process, but each has
its own icon and launch command. Whichever bundle runs first does the
actual install and supplies an icon to launch one of the programs.
Whichever bundle runs second only supplies an icon to launch the other
program. What would you recommend I check against to prevent the
second bundle from repeating the install? Just one of the program
files?

To automate this, I had to use a setup.exe with a response file
(setup.iss). There is no way I can see to stop creation of desktop and
program menu shortcuts. I assume that I will have to let the install
program create them and then use a ZCM action to delete them so the
user ends up with only the ZCM delivered icons?

Thanks Craig!


craig wilson wrote:

> I may be missing your point, but I presume it is something like MS
> Office and you want a ZCM Word, Excel, and Powerpoint Icon.
>
> If they are installed you want it to run, otherwise install.
>
> So you would create 3 bundles.
> One for Word, Excel, and Powerpoint.
>
> Whatever one you click on will run that program, but if office is not
> installed it will install the same office program but not try to
> reinstall if it exists.
>
> Put the Check on the install action so it does not reinstall if
> installed.
>
>
>
> On 2/28/2013 4:36 PM, KeN Etter wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 21:08:20 GMT, craig wilson
> ><craig_d_wilson@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Have a System Requirement on the Install Action to check to see
> > > if it is installed.

> >
> > Sorry Craig, I must be a little dense this afternoon...what does
> > that do for me?
> >
> > > On 2/28/2013 3:50 PM, KeN Etter wrote:
> > > > I installed the GroupWise client with a ZCM distributed program
> > > > icon. Works great. I now have an installation executable that
> > > > installs two programs. So far I haven't been able to figure
> > > > out how to create two separate installs. Running the install a
> > > > second time gives me the modify, repair, remove options. So if
> > > > I installed both apps at the same time, how do I provide two
> > > > shortcuts? I assume I can create two Actions, Launch, Launch
> > > > Executable actions with each one pointing to the appropriate
> > > > program. But how do they get unique icons? Under Summary,
> > > > General, Icon, I only see the option for one icon. Is there
> > > > another way to handle this? Suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >


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Re: executable installs two programs - how to handle program icon?

Yes, you could set an Action Level System Requirement for the EXE to
Exist and have a version# less than X.

Yes, you may have to delete the Shortcuts post install based on your
install method.

You may also want to try this to automate the install........
#1 - Launch the Setup.exe so it gets to the main part of the install but
do not hit "OK" so it actually starts installing.

#2 - Open %temp% and look for a newly created folder. Generally the
Setup.exe will extrat an MSI install to a random folder under TEMP.

Grab the folder and save to a safe place.
Then just cancel the install.

#3 - Use the MSI and files from the folder in step#2 to build an
install. If need be you can use Orca or other tools to edit the MSI.


On 3/1/2013 10:33 AM, KeN Etter wrote:
> I think I am getting it now... The software is two engineering
> applications. The install is delivered as a single executable. Run
> the install once it installs both apps. Run it again it wants to
> modify, repair, or remove both apps. So let me run this past you.
>
> I create two bundles. Both have the same install process, but each has
> its own icon and launch command. Whichever bundle runs first does the
> actual install and supplies an icon to launch one of the programs.
> Whichever bundle runs second only supplies an icon to launch the other
> program. What would you recommend I check against to prevent the
> second bundle from repeating the install? Just one of the program
> files?
>
> To automate this, I had to use a setup.exe with a response file
> (setup.iss). There is no way I can see to stop creation of desktop and
> program menu shortcuts. I assume that I will have to let the install
> program create them and then use a ZCM action to delete them so the
> user ends up with only the ZCM delivered icons?
>
> Thanks Craig!
>
>

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Re: executable installs two programs - how to handle program icon?

Thanks Craig! By the way, I didn't make the connection when Shaun
introduced us at Brainshare. It was great to meet you in
person...thanks for all the help you've provided.

Ken


craig wilson wrote:

> Yes, you could set an Action Level System Requirement for the EXE to
> Exist and have a version# less than X.
>
> Yes, you may have to delete the Shortcuts post install based on your
> install method.
>
> You may also want to try this to automate the install........
> #1 - Launch the Setup.exe so it gets to the main part of the install
> but do not hit "OK" so it actually starts installing.
>
> #2 - Open %temp% and look for a newly created folder. Generally the
> Setup.exe will extrat an MSI install to a random folder under TEMP.
>
> Grab the folder and save to a safe place.
> Then just cancel the install.
>
> #3 - Use the MSI and files from the folder in step#2 to build an
> install. If need be you can use Orca or other tools to edit the MSI.
>
>
> On 3/1/2013 10:33 AM, KeN Etter wrote:
> > I think I am getting it now... The software is two engineering
> > applications. The install is delivered as a single executable. Run
> > the install once it installs both apps. Run it again it wants to
> > modify, repair, or remove both apps. So let me run this past you.
> >
> > I create two bundles. Both have the same install process, but each
> > has its own icon and launch command. Whichever bundle runs first
> > does the actual install and supplies an icon to launch one of the
> > programs. Whichever bundle runs second only supplies an icon to
> > launch the other program. What would you recommend I check against
> > to prevent the second bundle from repeating the install? Just one
> > of the program files?
> >
> > To automate this, I had to use a setup.exe with a response file
> > (setup.iss). There is no way I can see to stop creation of desktop
> > and program menu shortcuts. I assume that I will have to let the
> > install program create them and then use a ZCM action to delete
> > them so the user ends up with only the ZCM delivered icons?
> >
> > Thanks Craig!
> >
> >


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Re: executable installs two programs - how to handle program icon?

That is one of my favorite parts of Brainshare when I go, meeting the
faces behind all the people I already know.

On 3/1/2013 3:08 PM, KeN Etter wrote:
> Thanks Craig! By the way, I didn't make the connection when Shaun
> introduced us at Brainshare. It was great to meet you in
> person...thanks for all the help you've provided.
>
> Ken
>
>
> craig wilson wrote:
>
>> Yes, you could set an Action Level System Requirement for the EXE to
>> Exist and have a version# less than X.
>>
>> Yes, you may have to delete the Shortcuts post install based on your
>> install method.
>>
>> You may also want to try this to automate the install........
>> #1 - Launch the Setup.exe so it gets to the main part of the install
>> but do not hit "OK" so it actually starts installing.
>>
>> #2 - Open %temp% and look for a newly created folder. Generally the
>> Setup.exe will extrat an MSI install to a random folder under TEMP.
>>
>> Grab the folder and save to a safe place.
>> Then just cancel the install.
>>
>> #3 - Use the MSI and files from the folder in step#2 to build an
>> install. If need be you can use Orca or other tools to edit the MSI.
>>
>>
>> On 3/1/2013 10:33 AM, KeN Etter wrote:
>>> I think I am getting it now... The software is two engineering
>>> applications. The install is delivered as a single executable. Run
>>> the install once it installs both apps. Run it again it wants to
>>> modify, repair, or remove both apps. So let me run this past you.
>>>
>>> I create two bundles. Both have the same install process, but each
>>> has its own icon and launch command. Whichever bundle runs first
>>> does the actual install and supplies an icon to launch one of the
>>> programs. Whichever bundle runs second only supplies an icon to
>>> launch the other program. What would you recommend I check against
>>> to prevent the second bundle from repeating the install? Just one
>>> of the program files?
>>>
>>> To automate this, I had to use a setup.exe with a response file
>>> (setup.iss). There is no way I can see to stop creation of desktop
>>> and program menu shortcuts. I assume that I will have to let the
>>> install program create them and then use a ZCM action to delete
>>> them so the user ends up with only the ZCM delivered icons?
>>>
>>> Thanks Craig!
>>>
>>>

>



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Re: executable installs two programs - how to handle program icon?

Craig,

better than meeting the behinds of all the faces you know 🙂

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Re: executable installs two programs - how to handle program icon?

Shaun Pond wrote:

> Craig,
>
> better than meeting the behinds of all the faces you know 🙂



Groan! That was just bad Shaun. 🙂
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Idea Exchange sites within this community are now coming online for some of the Collaboration Products!
GroupWise Idea Exchange - https://community.microfocus.com/t5/GroupWise-Idea-Exchange/idb-p/GWideas
SMG Idea Exchange - https://community.microfocus.com/t5/Secure-Messaging-Gateway-Idea/idb-p/SMG_Ideas
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Re: executable installs two programs - how to handle program icon?

KeN,

one does one's best...

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