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Can iManager 2.7.5 works with edirectory 9.0 ?

Can iManager 2.7.5 works with edirectory 9.0 ?
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Re: Can iManager 2.7.5 works with edirectory 9.0 ?

Yes, at least doing basic things it should be fine, but you also should
get iManager 3.x in there. eDirectory 9.x still works with older clients,
older eDirectory versions, and thus iManager, but at least having iManager
3.x around is trivial since you can run it on a workstation with almost no
work at all (iManager Workstation just extracts from an archive to any
directory you like and runs there). In case something happens with your
old 2.7 SP5 system, it will give you an easy way to keep things moving
until the server is repaired/replaced. iManager 3.x should also be fine
with older versions of eDirectory, such as 8.8 SP8.


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Re: Can iManager 2.7.5 works with edirectory 9.0 ?

On 11/9/2017 09:41, ab wrote:
> Yes, at least doing basic things it should be fine, but you also should
> get iManager 3.x in there. eDirectory 9.x still works with older clients,
> older eDirectory versions, and thus iManager, but at least having iManager
> 3.x around is trivial since you can run it on a workstation with almost no
> work at all (iManager Workstation just extracts from an archive to any
> directory you like and runs there).


Possible caveat:

iManager used to have the restriction that you could not run it from a
directory with a space anywhere in the path (so you shouldn't install it
under C:\Program Files). Is this still the case with 3.x?



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Re: Can iManager 2.7.5 works with edirectory 9.0 ?

On 11/09/2017 08:56 AM, Doug wrote:
> Possible caveat:
>
> iManager used to have the restriction that you could not run it from a
> directory with a space anywhere in the path (so you shouldn't install it
> under C:\Program Files). Is this still the case with 3.x?


Very likely; I do not run it on windows (my laptop is openSUSE) so I do
not deal with things like spaces in directory paths, but when I have
clients do so they have installed it under /Users anyway because it is
meant to be a per-user application, so it does not belong under "program
files' or whatever.

Also, I should point out that eDirectory 9.x installs NICI 3.x, so you
cannot have iManager 2.x on the same box as eDirectory 9.x. That is not
an eDirectory/iManager incompatibility as much as it is mutually exclusive
requirements (NICI) of each.

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Re: Can iManager 2.7.5 works with edirectory 9.0 ?

Thanks you for providing solution. I have a couple of more question thus let me tell you the process which I am doing:

I am trying to upgrade eDirectory from version 8.8 (Which was installed on server Win 2008) to edirectory version 9.0 which I am going to install on a different server (Win 2012). As the earlier edirectory was installed around 5 years back, thus the person who installed it uses imanager 2.7.5, Tomcat 5.5 And JDK 1.6.

Now If I install imanager 3.0, it'll ask for Tomcat 8.x and JDK 1.8., so my first question is:

1. Can the updated Tomcat 8.x create any issue going further because I have to replicate the users from old edirectory to new edirectory.

2. Also Can you tell me how iManager workstation is different from iManager server ?
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Re: Can iManager 2.7.5 works with edirectory 9.0 ?

On 11/09/2017 09:34 AM, muditgupta13 wrote:
>
> Thanks you for providing solution. I have a couple of more question thus
> let me tell you the process which I am doing:
>
> I am trying to upgrade eDirectory from version 8.8 (Which was installed
> on server Win 2008) to edirectory version 9.0 which I am going to
> install on a different server (Win 2012). As the earlier edirectory
> was installed around 5 years back, thus the person who installed it uses
> imanager 2.7.5, Tomcat 5.5 And JDK 1.6.


Yes, that would be expected. As a note, there is no mandatory link
between eDirectory and iManager; they sometimes run on the same systems,
abut often run on distinct systems. The eDirectory installer does not
include iManager at all.

If I were in your shoes, I would add a new server (rather than upgrade) as
you are suggesting, though I would do so on Linux (SUSE Linux Enterprise
Server (SLES), RedHat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), etc.).

> Now If I install imanager 3.0, it'll ask for Tomcat 8.x and JDK 1.8.,
> so my first question is:
>
> 1. Can the updated Tomcat 8.x create any issue going further because I
> have to replicate the users from old edirectory to new edirectory.


eDirectory does not rely on, or care about, Tomcat or Java, so there is
nothing to worry about there. eDirectory also automatically replicates,
assuming a replica is added to the server when it joins the tree, which is
automatic if it is one of the first three servers in the partition's
replica ring.

> 2. Also Can you tell me how iManager workstation is different from
> iManager server ?


iManager Workstation is extracted and executed directly on a system by a
user of that system; there is no formal "install" in the traditional
sense, though really all an "install" does is put files in the filesystem.
iManager Workstation includes its own browser, and is meant to be
accessed only by the local user on the system. It is easy to get into a
desired state and then save away (re-archive the extracted directory) so
you can test plugins, do development, or share with others on their own
systems, very easily.

iManager Workstation does a more-traditional installation of Tomcat and is
meant to be accessed from separate web browsers, often from other
machines, in a traditional client/server setup.

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Re: Can iManager 2.7.5 works with edirectory 9.0 ?

ab <ab@no-mx.forums.microfocus.com> wrote:
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> If I were in your shoes, I would add a new server (rather than upgrade) as
> you are suggesting, though I would do so on Linux (SUSE Linux Enterprise
> Server (SLES), RedHat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), etc.).
>


If your environment is primarily windows and your support team know windows
then I'd suggest you stick with that.

There are pros and cons of eDirectory on both OS platforms.

>>

> eDirectory does not rely on, or care about, Tomcat or Java, so there is
> nothing to worry about there.


IManager server installer on windows bundles a supported JRE and Tomcat so
no need to worry about that in general if you go down that path.

> iManager Workstation does a more-traditional installation of Tomcat and is
> meant to be accessed from separate web browsers, often from other
> machines, in a traditional client/server setup.
>


Think you meant iManager server here.


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Re: Can iManager 2.7.5 works with edirectory 9.0 ?

Thank you both so much for your responses, one question though.

In one of my testing environment server, both eDirectory, iManager and SSPR have to be installed. Question is:

1. I have to migrate SSPR from other server and it's running onTomcat 7.0 and If I installed iManager (3.x) it'll need tomcat 8.x. Thus is it possible to run 2 different version tomcat on same server & If yes then how ?

2. Is it possible to find which Tomcat is for SSPR and which one is for imanager and if a particular tomcat is currently in used or not ?

3.As ab has earlier mentioned that edirectory 9.0 install NICI thus imanager and edirectory should not be installed on same machine, but I have installed both the component in same server and it's working fine for me, So can this affect in future ?
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Re: Can iManager 2.7.5 works with edirectory 9.0 ?

On 11/10/2017 09:34 AM, muditgupta13 wrote:
>
> Thank you both so much for your responses, one question though.
>
> In one of my testing environment server, both eDirectory, iManager and
> SSPR have to be installed. Question is:
>
> 1. I have to migrate SSPR from other server and it's running onTomcat
> 7.0 and If I installed iManager (3.x) it'll need tomcat 8.x. Thus is it
> possible to run 2 different version tomcat on same server & If yes then
> how ?


It is on Linux, and I do not know why it would not be on windows, but then
again windows is a weird OS. On the SLES side the iManager install
installs its own Tomcat, and Java, specifically for iManager, and manages
it all with a dedicated service. Something like SSPR, then, can run in
the Apache Tomcat instance that comes with the OS out of the box (windows
does not come with useful things like that out of the box as it does not
have software repositories).

> 2. Is it possible to find which Tomcat is for SSPR and which one is for
> imanager and if a particular tomcat is currently in used or not ?


I would guess that there is one version doing everything. That is
probably fine most of the time, but getting supported versions for
everything at once can be a bit of a trick. Otherwise there is probably a
place in windows to show installed software and versions, but I do not
know where that is other than Add/Remove Programs.

> 3.As ab has earlier mentioned that edirectory 9.0 install NICI thus
> imanager and edirectory should not be installed on same machine, but I
> have installed both the component in same server and it's working fine
> for me, So can this affect in future ?


The problem is a new incompatibility with NICI 3.x; iManager 2.7.x needs
NICI 2.x, and both iManager 3.x and eDirectory 9.x need NICI 3.x. You can
definitely install eDir and iManager on the same box, but you must have
compatible versions of dependencies, and that means either NICI 3 for iMan
3.x and eDir 9x, or NICI 2.7 for iMan 2.7 and eDir 8.8. NICI 3.x adds a
lot of new functionality, and older versions of eDir/iManager will not
support that new functionality (because "forward-compatible" software is
basically a non-starter).

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Re: Can iManager 2.7.5 works with edirectory 9.0 ?

Thank you for explaining it.
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