Airprint in 2.1

[iblackwood]

Previously iPrint allowed us to publish printer as Airprint printers even when the printer itself was not an Airprint certified printer. This was in fact listed as a feature of iPrint.

With 2.1, according to this https://www.novell.com/docrep/documents/iefi9bneph/airprint_server_limitation_with_ipint_2_faq_external.pdf this functionality has been removed UNLESS your printer is Airprint certified.

It will be difficult to sell this as an "upgrade" to management. For iPrint to Airprint enable your printers they need to be Airprint capable. Sorry - why do we pay for iPrint then ???

Is there a way to revert to the previous functionality - even if Apple won't support this ?

Cheers
Ian

[Anonymous_User]

On 10/11/2016 06:46 AM, iblackwood wrote:
>
> Previously iPrint allowed us to publish printer as Airprint printers
> even when the printer itself was not an Airprint certified printer. This
> was in fact listed as a feature of iPrint.
>
> With 2.1, according to this
> https://www.novell.com/docrep/documents/iefi9bneph/airprint_server_limitation_with_ipint_2_faq_external.pdf
> this functionality has been removed UNLESS your printer is Airprint
> certified.
>
> It will be difficult to sell this as an "upgrade" to management. For
> iPrint to Airprint enable your printers they need to be Airprint
> capable. Sorry - why do we pay for iPrint then ???
>
> Is there a way to revert to the previous functionality - even if Apple
> won't support this ?
>
> Cheers
> Ian
>
>

It is nothing Microfocus can do about it. Microfocus has to follow Apple
agreement to have the appliance be airprint certified. Going back to 1.1
behavior will cost Microfocus a lawsuit from Apple.So to avoid that, all
printers published as airprinter on the appliance, they need to be
airprint certified from Apple.
But, you may want to digger deep on the new IOS 3.x app as new
capabilities has been added where you may be able to use it even if you
printer is not airprint certified nor it is enable as such on the
appliance. It has now the capability to be used as iPrint App extension.

https://www.novell.com/communities/coolsolutions/whats-new-micro-focus-iprint-ios-3-0-app/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN2St3RTpAM

[iblackwood]

Hi,

Thanks for the response. Is a shame about the license agreement - it was promoting Apple products by allowing them to print before.

In our case the Airprint is mostly used by Guests, so installing the App is not a palatable solution for typically "one off" printing.

How does 2.1 decide whether it can enable Airprint on the appliance for a printer ?
Does it query the printer model and use a lookup table ?
Or does it look for Bonjour advertisements from the printer or query the printer for Airprint capability ?

What I am wondering here is whether Airprint needs to be enabled (and advertising) on the printer before iPrint lets it be enabled as an Airprint printer.

Between our subnets I want to only allow traffic to the iPrint appliance rather than each printer. Our Bonjour Gateway rebroadcasts the advertisements between subnets so it would advertise the (inaccessible) printers as well as the (accessible) iPrint appliance. If I can turn off Airprint on the printers but still have it enabled at the iPrint appliance, then the user will just see the iPrint appliance version of the printer.

Thanks again,
Ian

[Anonymous_User]

On 10/12/2016 06:56 AM, iblackwood wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the response. Is a shame about the license agreement - it was
> promoting Apple products by allowing them to print before.
>
> In our case the Airprint is mostly used by Guests, so installing the App
> is not a palatable solution for typically "one off" printing.
>
> How does 2.1 decide whether it can enable Airprint on the appliance for
> a printer ?
> Does it query the printer model and use a lookup table ?
> Or does it look for Bonjour advertisements from the printer or query the
> printer for Airprint capability ?

yes, it queries the printer. If printer reply correctly, you'll have the
option the to enable it as airprinter on the appliance. No check against
any table. But there is a list of certified airprinters on Apple website.



>
> What I am wondering here is whether Airprint needs to be enabled (and
> advertising) on the printer before iPrint lets it be enabled as an
> Airprint printer.

yes, it has to be enabled on the printer, otherwise you'll not be able
to enable it on the appliance.
See tid 7017962


>
> Between our subnets I want to only allow traffic to the iPrint appliance
> rather than each printer. Our Bonjour Gateway rebroadcasts the
> advertisements between subnets so it would advertise the (inaccessible)
> printers as well as the (accessible) iPrint appliance. If I can turn off
> Airprint on the printers but still have it enabled at the iPrint
> appliance, then the user will just see the iPrint appliance version of
> the printer.


Not possible. Hence i mentioned the app. You do not need airprint enable
on the printer nor have the printer enable on the appliance as
airprinter to be able to print from the app.




> Thanks again,
> Ian
>
>

you're welcome

[iblackwood]

Hello again - thanks for the info. I will have a play with a couple of capable printers.

>Hence i mentioned the app. You do not need airprint enable
on the printer nor have the printer enable on the appliance as
airprinter to be able to print from the app.

So for Guests - how do they use the App ? Isn't a login forced ? They won't have directory accounts as they are guests.

Cheers
Ian

[Anonymous_User]

On 10/18/2016 08:46 AM, iblackwood wrote:
>
> Hello again - thanks for the info. I will have a play with a couple of
> capable printers.
>
>> Hence i mentioned the app. You do not need airprint enable
> on the printer nor have the printer enable on the appliance as
> airprinter to be able to print from the app.
>
> So for Guests - how do they use the App ? Isn't a login forced ? They
> won't have directory accounts as they are guests.
>
> Cheers
> Ian
>
>

yes, you need an account on the appliance but not on source edir. You
can manually create a container on the appliance, outside of the ldap
import containers scope, an create a user "guest" with password "guest"
and then use the QCode facility of the app to generate a QCode to
install printers so guest only need to scan the QCode.

[iblackwood]

Thanks, I will give that a try as well.

Cheers
Ian

[lwegner]

This follow-on video to the above explains new capabilities in iOS 10 that allow you to use "AirPrint" to print but then redirect that job elsewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUj8grIUgUI