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Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

I just noticed TID 3786843 which recommends hotfixes for Windows SP
Workstation:

Novell recommends that every Windows 2000 SP4 and XP SP2
workstation running the iPrint client have two Microsoft
hotfixes applied....
1) Install Microsoft hotfix KB 884897 - Missing print features
2) Install the Microsoft hotfix KB 893225 - Slow print performance

I have noticed that "n-up" printing does not seem to work with iPrint.

Has anyone done this with good/bad results? It appears that you have to
beg Microsoft support for access to these, as I can find the discussion
of them on the Microsoft web pages, but not the download itself.

Tom

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Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

On Tue, 22 May 2007 14:29:46 +0000, Tom Breeden wrote:

> Has anyone done this with good/bad results? It appears that you have to
> beg Microsoft support for access to these, as I can find the discussion of
> them on the Microsoft web pages, but not the download itself.


You don't have to beg them for the hotfixes. You simply have to call
them, give the KB number and say you are having the problem, and then
they'll e-mail the hotfixes to you. The patches work wonders and really
should be considered prereqs for using iPrint.

If it were up to me, I'd change the iPrint client install to not even
install if those patches aren't on the system.

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Joe Marton
Novell Support Forum SysOp
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Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

Joseph Marton wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 14:29:46 +0000, Tom Breeden wrote:
>
>> Has anyone done this with good/bad results? It appears that you have to
>> beg Microsoft support for access to these, as I can find the discussion of
>> them on the Microsoft web pages, but not the download itself.

>
> You don't have to beg them for the hotfixes. You simply have to call
> them, give the KB number and say you are having the problem, and then
> they'll e-mail the hotfixes to you. The patches work wonders and really
> should be considered prereqs for using iPrint.
>
> If it were up to me, I'd change the iPrint client install to not even
> install if those patches aren't on the system.
>


I would be nice if Novell could get them and make them available, but I
doubt MS would allow that.

Anyone have them handy for XP and 2k?
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Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

Joseph Marton wrote:
> If it were up to me, I'd change the iPrint client install to not even
> install if those patches aren't on the system.
>


Unfortunately in practice that would be a bad idea not to make a product
install based on the criteria of a non public patch being installed. If
it was on windows update sure. (Why isn't it on windows update anyway?
That and the darned WPA2 update)

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Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:04:02 +0000, Patrick Farrell wrote:

> Unfortunately in practice that would be a bad idea not to make a product
> install based on the criteria of a non public patch being installed.


Well, the only thing is sooooooo many features of iPrint don't work
without those patches. And it's not just iPrint, it's any sort of network
printer has issues. Plus the patches are available for free from M$, you
just have to call them to obtain them.

> If
> it was on windows update sure. (Why isn't it on windows update anyway?


No idea why it's not, but it would be nice if they were. I guess that
Windows Update is only for security fixes, so everyone will have to wait
for XP SP3 to get these fixes without calling M$.

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Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

Joseph Marton wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:04:02 +0000, Patrick Farrell wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately in practice that would be a bad idea not to make a product
>> install based on the criteria of a non public patch being installed.

>
> Well, the only thing is sooooooo many features of iPrint don't work
> without those patches. And it's not just iPrint, it's any sort of network
> printer has issues. Plus the patches are available for free from M$, you
> just have to call them to obtain them.
>
>> If
>> it was on windows update sure. (Why isn't it on windows update anyway?

>
> No idea why it's not, but it would be nice if they were. I guess that
> Windows Update is only for security fixes, so everyone will have to wait
> for XP SP3 to get these fixes without calling M$.
>


No windows update is for all sorts of things that go under non critical
such as root cert updates, media player, cardspace updates etc etc. I
wonder if they will ever send out an SP3
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Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

Joseph Marton wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 15:04:02 +0000, Patrick Farrell wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately in practice that would be a bad idea not to make a product
>> install based on the criteria of a non public patch being installed.

>
> Well, the only thing is sooooooo many features of iPrint don't work
> without those patches. And it's not just iPrint, it's any sort of network
> printer has issues. Plus the patches are available for free from M$, you
> just have to call them to obtain them.
>
>> If
>> it was on windows update sure. (Why isn't it on windows update anyway?

>
> No idea why it's not, but it would be nice if they were. I guess that
> Windows Update is only for security fixes, so everyone will have to wait
> for XP SP3 to get these fixes without calling M$.
>


For Windows 2000 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900345/en-us

84497 was rolled into that update
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Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

>>> On 5/22/2007 at 10:47 AM, Joseph Marton<jmartonNO@SPAMhsemuni.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 14:29:46 +0000, Tom Breeden wrote:
>
>> Has anyone done this with good/bad results? It appears that you have to
>> beg Microsoft support for access to these, as I can find the discussion

> of
>> them on the Microsoft web pages, but not the download itself.

>
> You don't have to beg them for the hotfixes. You simply have to call
> them, give the KB number and say you are having the problem, and then
> they'll e-mail the hotfixes to you. The patches work wonders and really
> should be considered prereqs for using iPrint.
>
> If it were up to me, I'd change the iPrint client install to not even
> install if those patches aren't on the system.



Thanks. I will call with a firm voice!

Tom

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Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

> I
> wonder if they will ever send out an SP3


At the very bottom of MS KB documents look for the word "Keyword".
KB884897 has the word "kbwinxpsp3fix" which means that this hot fix
is scheduled to be included in XP SP3.

Regards
Rolf Lidvall
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Re: Microsoft hotfixes needed for every iPrint client workstation

Patrick, my *guess* is that an SP3 for XP will be available sometime
after Microsoft 2007 server and Vista SP1 have been out for a while.


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