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PhilJannusch Absent Member.
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Moving NDPS printers to IPrint

I have the go ahead to move my NDPS printer on Netware 5. to Netware 6.5, then to Linux. I can not add Linux servers to tree until I get the replicas off of the Netware 5 boxes.

I looked at a migration tool in a TID or something to move the printers from Netware 5, but I can not find the programs because I am on Netware 5.0. I fear since the Netware 5 server is so old it just might not work.

Am I better off just creating new IPrint printers on a Netware 6.5 server manually (I think I have 40-45 printers)? Then using an automated tool to move the printers from Netware 6.5 to Linux later?

any help would be great (Yes I know this should have been done years ago)

thanks
Phil J.
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Re: Moving NDPS printers to IPrint

In article <PhilJannusch.676ntz@no-mx.forums.novell.com>, PhilJannusch
wrote:
> I looked at a migration tool in a TID or something to move the printers
> from Netware 5, but I can not find the programs because I am on Netware
> 5.0.

Which TID was that? Perhaps if we know which tool you were looking for,
some of us packrats might have a copy of it handy.

Otherwise the recreate on NW 6.5.8 is likely the easiest route.

> (Yes I know this should have been done years ago)

yes, there are many 'shoulds', but was it broken?
This shows one of the challenges of the IT industry. The vendor side makes
its money by moving clients through versions as fast as possible, but the
clients also want stability and low cost in direct conflict to that vendor
desire.


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Re: Moving NDPS printers to IPrint

PhilJannusch wrote:

>
> I have the go ahead to move my NDPS printer on Netware 5. to Netware
> 6.5, then to Linux. I can not add Linux servers to tree until I get
> the replicas off of the Netware 5 boxes.
>
> I looked at a migration tool in a TID or something to move the
> printers from Netware 5, but I can not find the programs because I am
> on Netware 5.0. I fear since the Netware 5 server is so old it just
> might not work.
>
> Am I better off just creating new IPrint printers on a Netware 6.5
> server manually (I think I have 40-45 printers)? Then using an
> automated tool to move the printers from Netware 6.5 to Linux later?


Hey Phil, keep in mind that the old Consolidation Utility supports
NetWare 5.0 as a source platform.

http://www.novell.com/documentation/scmt/scmt11/data/bxj62wm.html

You should be able to use this to get your printers migrated over to
NW65, then eventually when you're ready to go to OES you can just use
miggui to do the migration from NW65.

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PhilJannusch Absent Member.
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Re: Moving NDPS printers to IPrint

I am sorry I was not 100% clear. One of my issues is not just moving the queues, but getting the PCs to move the their printers to the new Queues. All of my users are locked down, so they can not change the printers. All of the printer are on NDPS on Netware 5.0 servers. Can I automate the moving of the local print assignments?

thanks!
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Re: Moving NDPS printers to IPrint

PhilJannusch wrote:

>
> I am sorry I was not 100% clear. One of my issues is not just moving
> the queues, but getting the PCs to move the their printers to the new
> Queues. All of my users are locked down, so they can not change the
> printers. All of the printer are on NDPS on Netware 5.0 servers. Can
> I automate the moving of the local print assignments?


Once you have the printers on NW65 and then iPrint-enable them, you
could use ZEN to deploy the new printers automatically to your users.
You might want to deploy the iPrint client ahead of time to make this
easier.

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PhilJannusch Absent Member.
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Re: Moving NDPS printers to IPrint

Thanks. I am starting the process of getting the Netware 6.5 servers ready.

It has been years since I built a server from bare metal.

This sounds like a dumb question, but how do I install NDPS (IPrint) on a Netware 6.5 server that does not already have it installed?

I think I would install from NWCONFIG, but what would I use as the source media? Is the SP8 a good source?


thanks
Phil
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Re: Moving NDPS printers to IPrint

I think I figured this out.

"Mount the NetWare Installation or Overlay CD as a volume, launch StartX at the server console, click on Novell, Install, Add, browse to the Product.ini file at the root of the CD, select Novell Distributed Print Services"

Since the server does not have DVD player, I will use the install CDs that are for 6.5 sp8.

thanks
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Re: Moving NDPS printers to IPrint

On 15/01/2014 21:56, PhilJannusch wrote:

> "Mount the NetWare Installation or Overlay CD as a volume, launch StartX
> at the server console, click on Novell, Install, Add, browse to the
> Product.ini file at the root of the CD, select Novell Distributed Print
> Services"
>
> Since the server does not have DVD player, I will use the install CDs
> that are for 6.5 sp8.


Tip: you could download the DVD ISO to a workstation, log in to server
from that workstation, copy the ISO across to the server, mount it on
the server (with "nss /MountImageVolume=path_imagefilename"[1]), and
then point to product.ini on that "volume".

It would save burning and swapping CDs.

HTH.

[1]
https://www.novell.com/documentation/oes/nss_enu/data/brlusae.html#brlusae
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Re: Moving NDPS printers to IPrint

PhilJannusch wrote:

> It has been years since I built a server from bare metal.


Phil I can't remember if you have VMware or not, but if you do, you may
find that virtualizing NW65 is much easier and gives much more
flexibility than installing it bare metal.

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PhilJannusch Absent Member.
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Re: Moving NDPS printers to IPrint

Very cool. thanks for the idea.
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Re: Moving NDPS printers to IPrint

My situation is to upgrade a Network with NetWare 5.1 and 6.5 servers so that I can modernize it. My network covers 7 sites in a few states. You will hear many questions from me in the next few months. Since I am do all the Novell servers myself, all help is greatly appreciated!!!
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Re: Moving NDPS printers to IPrint

PhilJannusch wrote:

>
> My situation is to upgrade a Network with NetWare 5.1 and 6.5 servers
> so that I can modernize it. My network covers 7 sites in a few
> states. You will hear many questions from me in the next few months.
> Since I am do all the Novell servers myself, all help is greatly
> appreciated!!!


Phil you've got my e-mail so feel free to reach out to me directly as
well if you'd like.

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