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NDPS Workstation Association

Hi,

Is there a way to associate printers to workstations with NDPS....

I understand that there is a way with iprint, but we need secure printing
so that user ids are tracked against print jobs as we use a printing
accounting package.

It is also my understanding that iprint requires users to log on to a web
page when they want to print. We are in a student campus environment and
to have students log in to print each time is not practical, that's why
we still use the NDPS option.

Perhaps there is a way to auto login to iprint with the latest novell /
iprint client?

Many thanks.
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Re: NDPS Workstation Association

Are you looking for a way to push out printers to a specific workstation
or list of workstations?

Or a way to audit and control which workstations have/can print to a
specific printer?

Bob

bwhitford@asas.qld.edu.au wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to associate printers to workstations with NDPS....
>
> I understand that there is a way with iprint, but we need secure printing
> so that user ids are tracked against print jobs as we use a printing
> accounting package.
>
> It is also my understanding that iprint requires users to log on to a web
> page when they want to print. We are in a student campus environment and
> to have students log in to print each time is not practical, that's why
> we still use the NDPS option.
>
> Perhaps there is a way to auto login to iprint with the latest novell /
> iprint client?
>
> Many thanks.
>

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bwhitford@asas.qld.edu.au wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to associate printers to workstations with NDPS....


Yes. You need zenworks in order to have workstations objects in
e-directory. Then just use zenworks ndps or iprint policy to assosiate
printer to those workstations.

> I understand that there is a way with iprint, but we need secure printing
> so that user ids are tracked against print jobs as we use a printing
> accounting package.


That is possible with iprint too (what printing accounting package?
Pcounter?)

> It is also my understanding that iprint requires users to log on to a web
> page when they want to print. We are in a student campus environment and
> to have students log in to print each time is not practical, that's why
> we still use the NDPS option.
>
> Perhaps there is a way to auto login to iprint with the latest novell /
> iprint client?


Latest Novell client + latest iPrint client should make authentication
invisible. For that you need to have UniqueID attribute to users and
(probably) user should exists only in one context.

But NDPS works as well, if not better, as iPrint, so if you don't need
some of the iPrint features like printer profiles, then my suggestion is
to continue using NDPS. Setting up iPrint-webserver in servers and
LDAP-authentication and that sorts of things are unnecessary work if you
don't need any iPrint-only features.

To use zenworks NDPS-policy you must install zen 3.2 snapins in
consoleone. But that's small potatoes.

Timo Pietilä
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NDPS Workstation Association

You can use secure printing with iPrint, because it will share the
client32 login credential. I would recommend using the v4.20 iPrint
client or newer. You shouldn't need to login to iPrint seperately
(assuming your backend is up to par).

> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to associate printers to workstations with NDPS....
>
> I understand that there is a way with iprint, but we need secure

printing
> so that user ids are tracked against print jobs as we use a printing
> accounting package.
>
> It is also my understanding that iprint requires users to log on to a

web
> page when they want to print. We are in a student campus environment and
> to have students log in to print each time is not practical, that's why
> we still use the NDPS option.
>
> Perhaps there is a way to auto login to iprint with the latest novell /
> iprint client?
>
> Many thanks.


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Re: NDPS Workstation Association

Thanks so much for all your help.... So if I get the Zenworks 3.2 snapins
for Console 1, I can use Zenworks to associate ndps to windows XP
workstations? Do the Zen 3.2 snapins support Windows XP drivers?

That would be fantastic...



> bwhitford@asas.qld.edu.au wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there a way to associate printers to workstations with NDPS....

>
> Yes. You need zenworks in order to have workstations objects in
> e-directory. Then just use zenworks ndps or iprint policy to assosiate
> printer to those workstations.
>
> > I understand that there is a way with iprint, but we need secure

printing
> > so that user ids are tracked against print jobs as we use a printing
> > accounting package.

>
> That is possible with iprint too (what printing accounting package?
> Pcounter?)
>
> > It is also my understanding that iprint requires users to log on to a

web
> > page when they want to print. We are in a student campus environment

and
> > to have students log in to print each time is not practical, that's

why
> > we still use the NDPS option.
> >
> > Perhaps there is a way to auto login to iprint with the latest

novell /
> > iprint client?

>
> Latest Novell client + latest iPrint client should make authentication
> invisible. For that you need to have UniqueID attribute to users and
> (probably) user should exists only in one context.
>
> But NDPS works as well, if not better, as iPrint, so if you don't need
> some of the iPrint features like printer profiles, then my suggestion

is
> to continue using NDPS. Setting up iPrint-webserver in servers and
> LDAP-authentication and that sorts of things are unnecessary work if

you
> don't need any iPrint-only features.
>
> To use zenworks NDPS-policy you must install zen 3.2 snapins in
> consoleone. But that's small potatoes.
>
> Timo Pietilä


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NDPS Workstation Association

Thanks for the TIP- so you are saying that the latest iprint client uses
the client 32 credential for its login to secure iprint printing - i.e.
no seperate web page login. That is exactly what we need.

Do you need to have unique ids setup or users in a single context?

Cheers.



> You can use secure printing with iPrint, because it will share the
> client32 login credential. I would recommend using the v4.20 iPrint
> client or newer. You shouldn't need to login to iPrint seperately
> (assuming your backend is up to par).
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there a way to associate printers to workstations with NDPS....
> >
> > I understand that there is a way with iprint, but we need secure

> printing
> > so that user ids are tracked against print jobs as we use a printing
> > accounting package.
> >
> > It is also my understanding that iprint requires users to log on to a

> web
> > page when they want to print. We are in a student campus environment

and
> > to have students log in to print each time is not practical, that's

why
> > we still use the NDPS option.
> >
> > Perhaps there is a way to auto login to iprint with the latest

novell /
> > iprint client?
> >
> > Many thanks.

>


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Re: NDPS Workstation Association

bwhitford@asas.qld.edu.au wrote:
> Thanks so much for all your help.... So if I get the Zenworks 3.2 snapins
> for Console 1, I can use Zenworks to associate ndps to windows XP
> workstations? Do the Zen 3.2 snapins support Windows XP drivers?


No. For XP -drivers you need to use iManager. But iManager doesn't have
zen-plugins, so you need to use C1 for zenworks policies. NDPS policies
are available as "Windows NT-2000-XP" -policies (NT Computer Printer).
You can associate any printer in any windows machine from that part.

So iManager to set up printer objects, drivers, spooling etc., C1 for
zenworks policies and other zen-stuff. You need two management utilities
if you use Zenworks. And even nwadmin32 isn't quite dead yet.

(there is big need for either zen-plugin for iManager, or NDPS/iPrint
management for C1. Either way it would remove need for one extra
management utility).

Timo Pietilä
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bwhitford@asas.qld.edu.au wrote:
> Thanks for the TIP- so you are saying that the latest iprint client uses
> the client 32 credential for its login to secure iprint printing - i.e.
> no seperate web page login. That is exactly what we need.


NWClient need to be 4.90 or newer too AFAIK.

> Do you need to have unique ids setup or users in a single context?


You need UniqueID:s. That other part was only my quess, and probably a
wrong one. OTOH LDAP queries will work better if all of your users have
really unique usernames. Then there is no possibility to get wrong
username for same UniqueID.

Timo Pietilä
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