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2007-01-08
20:42
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NDPS and OSE Linux
Hi all,
We are currently planning to migrate our entire network from Netware 6.0
& 6.5 to OES Linux. We are currently using NDPS as our printing system
(we do not use iPrint). I've been going through the newgroups and some
people seem to have the same issues/questions but the answer seems
unclear.
Does OES Linux support NDPS? (without the iPrint client on the
workstations)?
Is there a tool/procedure to transfer the Broker, Print Manager and so on
to the OES Linux server?
Or, are we going to have to install the iPrint client on all workstations
nad use iPrint exclusively?
Thanks for any help,
Glenn
We are currently planning to migrate our entire network from Netware 6.0
& 6.5 to OES Linux. We are currently using NDPS as our printing system
(we do not use iPrint). I've been going through the newgroups and some
people seem to have the same issues/questions but the answer seems
unclear.
Does OES Linux support NDPS? (without the iPrint client on the
workstations)?
Is there a tool/procedure to transfer the Broker, Print Manager and so on
to the OES Linux server?
Or, are we going to have to install the iPrint client on all workstations
nad use iPrint exclusively?
Thanks for any help,
Glenn
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2007-01-08
22:07
glenn@nospam.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We are currently planning to migrate our entire network from Netware
> 6.0 & 6.5 to OES Linux. We are currently using NDPS as our printing
> system (we do not use iPrint). I've been going through the newgroups
> and some people seem to have the same issues/questions but the answer
> seems unclear.
>
> Does OES Linux support NDPS? (without the iPrint client on the
> workstations)?
>
> Is there a tool/procedure to transfer the Broker, Print Manager and
> so on to the OES Linux server?
>
> Or, are we going to have to install the iPrint client on all
> workstations nad use iPrint exclusively?
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Glenn
I have written a little article/tip for Novell CoolSolutions exactly
about this problem. If will approve it Coolguys for publishing, you can
read it there.
--
Using XanaNews 1.18.1.6 on 8.1.2007 22:33:54
David
> Hi all,
>
> We are currently planning to migrate our entire network from Netware
> 6.0 & 6.5 to OES Linux. We are currently using NDPS as our printing
> system (we do not use iPrint). I've been going through the newgroups
> and some people seem to have the same issues/questions but the answer
> seems unclear.
>
> Does OES Linux support NDPS? (without the iPrint client on the
> workstations)?
>
> Is there a tool/procedure to transfer the Broker, Print Manager and
> so on to the OES Linux server?
>
> Or, are we going to have to install the iPrint client on all
> workstations nad use iPrint exclusively?
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Glenn
I have written a little article/tip for Novell CoolSolutions exactly
about this problem. If will approve it Coolguys for publishing, you can
read it there.
--
Using XanaNews 1.18.1.6 on 8.1.2007 22:33:54
David
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2007-01-08
23:07
On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:42:34 +0000, glenn wrote:
> Does OES Linux support NDPS? (without the iPrint client on the
> workstations)?
iPrint is based on NDPS, but with OES/Linux in order to print I believe
you'll need to go the iPrint route. It's not that bad of a thing, though.
> Is there a tool/procedure to transfer the Broker, Print Manager and so
> on to the OES Linux server?
I'll defer that one to someone else.
> Or, are we going to have to install the iPrint client on all
> workstations nad use iPrint exclusively?
You'll want to roll out the iPrint client, but that can be done in an
automated fashion using either ZEN or a login script. You won't have to
go around and touch every machine. You can also let people go to the
server's iprint page (http://servername/ipp) and install it manually.
--
Joe Marton
Novell Support Forum SysOp
Novell does not officially monitor these forums!
> Does OES Linux support NDPS? (without the iPrint client on the
> workstations)?
iPrint is based on NDPS, but with OES/Linux in order to print I believe
you'll need to go the iPrint route. It's not that bad of a thing, though.
> Is there a tool/procedure to transfer the Broker, Print Manager and so
> on to the OES Linux server?
I'll defer that one to someone else.
> Or, are we going to have to install the iPrint client on all
> workstations nad use iPrint exclusively?
You'll want to roll out the iPrint client, but that can be done in an
automated fashion using either ZEN or a login script. You won't have to
go around and touch every machine. You can also let people go to the
server's iprint page (http://servername/ipp) and install it manually.
--
Joe Marton
Novell Support Forum SysOp
Novell does not officially monitor these forums!
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2007-01-10
16:37
> On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:42:34 +0000, glenn wrote:
>
> > Does OES Linux support NDPS? (without the iPrint client on the
> > workstations)?
>
> iPrint is based on NDPS, but with OES/Linux in order to print I believe
> you'll need to go the iPrint route. It's not that bad of a thing,
though.
>
> > Is there a tool/procedure to transfer the Broker, Print Manager and so
> > on to the OES Linux server?
>
> I'll defer that one to someone else.
>
> > Or, are we going to have to install the iPrint client on all
> > workstations nad use iPrint exclusively?
>
> You'll want to roll out the iPrint client, but that can be done in an
> automated fashion using either ZEN or a login script. You won't have to
> go around and touch every machine. You can also let people go to the
> server's iprint page (http://servername/ipp) and install it manually.
>
> --
> Joe Marton
> Novell Support Forum SysOp
> Novell does not officially monitor these forums!
>
Hi Joe,
Thanks for your responce.
That's kind of what I want to avoid doing. Currently, we associate the
printers to the users and the printers are installed automatically on the
workstation upon login. Will I loose this functionality by moving to OES
Linux. I'dont mind pushing the ipp client to the workstations with zen
but I want to avoid having them to the the install through the web
browser...will the printers still install automatically?
Glenn.
>
> > Does OES Linux support NDPS? (without the iPrint client on the
> > workstations)?
>
> iPrint is based on NDPS, but with OES/Linux in order to print I believe
> you'll need to go the iPrint route. It's not that bad of a thing,
though.
>
> > Is there a tool/procedure to transfer the Broker, Print Manager and so
> > on to the OES Linux server?
>
> I'll defer that one to someone else.
>
> > Or, are we going to have to install the iPrint client on all
> > workstations nad use iPrint exclusively?
>
> You'll want to roll out the iPrint client, but that can be done in an
> automated fashion using either ZEN or a login script. You won't have to
> go around and touch every machine. You can also let people go to the
> server's iprint page (http://servername/ipp) and install it manually.
>
> --
> Joe Marton
> Novell Support Forum SysOp
> Novell does not officially monitor these forums!
>
Hi Joe,
Thanks for your responce.
That's kind of what I want to avoid doing. Currently, we associate the
printers to the users and the printers are installed automatically on the
workstation upon login. Will I loose this functionality by moving to OES
Linux. I'dont mind pushing the ipp client to the workstations with zen
but I want to avoid having them to the the install through the web
browser...will the printers still install automatically?
Glenn.
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2007-01-10
16:44
> > On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:42:34 +0000, glenn wrote:
> >
> > > Does OES Linux support NDPS? (without the iPrint client on the
> > > workstations)?
> >
> > iPrint is based on NDPS, but with OES/Linux in order to print I believe
> > you'll need to go the iPrint route. It's not that bad of a thing,
> though.
> >
> > > Is there a tool/procedure to transfer the Broker, Print Manager and so
> > > on to the OES Linux server?
> >
> > I'll defer that one to someone else.
> >
> > > Or, are we going to have to install the iPrint client on all
> > > workstations nad use iPrint exclusively?
> >
> > You'll want to roll out the iPrint client, but that can be done in an
> > automated fashion using either ZEN or a login script. You won't have to
> > go around and touch every machine. You can also let people go to the
> > server's iprint page (http://servername/ipp) and install it manually.
> >
> > --
> > Joe Marton
> > Novell Support Forum SysOp
> > Novell does not officially monitor these forums!
> >
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> Thanks for your responce.
>
> That's kind of what I want to avoid doing. Currently, we associate the
> printers to the users and the printers are installed automatically on the
> workstation upon login. Will I loose this functionality by moving to OES
> Linux. I'dont mind pushing the ipp client to the workstations with zen
> but I want to avoid having them to the the install through the web
> browser...will the printers still install automatically?
>
> Glenn.
>
Glenn, you can deploy the iprint client through Zen or login script. There
is an exe for the client that does not require user intervention. Do a
search on novell.com for the file iprint.sch. Once this is applied it will
allow you to install the printers automatically without user intervention,
similar to NDPS.
> >
> > > Does OES Linux support NDPS? (without the iPrint client on the
> > > workstations)?
> >
> > iPrint is based on NDPS, but with OES/Linux in order to print I believe
> > you'll need to go the iPrint route. It's not that bad of a thing,
> though.
> >
> > > Is there a tool/procedure to transfer the Broker, Print Manager and so
> > > on to the OES Linux server?
> >
> > I'll defer that one to someone else.
> >
> > > Or, are we going to have to install the iPrint client on all
> > > workstations nad use iPrint exclusively?
> >
> > You'll want to roll out the iPrint client, but that can be done in an
> > automated fashion using either ZEN or a login script. You won't have to
> > go around and touch every machine. You can also let people go to the
> > server's iprint page (http://servername/ipp) and install it manually.
> >
> > --
> > Joe Marton
> > Novell Support Forum SysOp
> > Novell does not officially monitor these forums!
> >
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> Thanks for your responce.
>
> That's kind of what I want to avoid doing. Currently, we associate the
> printers to the users and the printers are installed automatically on the
> workstation upon login. Will I loose this functionality by moving to OES
> Linux. I'dont mind pushing the ipp client to the workstations with zen
> but I want to avoid having them to the the install through the web
> browser...will the printers still install automatically?
>
> Glenn.
>
Glenn, you can deploy the iprint client through Zen or login script. There
is an exe for the client that does not require user intervention. Do a
search on novell.com for the file iprint.sch. Once this is applied it will
allow you to install the printers automatically without user intervention,
similar to NDPS.
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2007-01-10
16:44
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:37:13 +0000, glenn wrote:
> That's kind of what I want to avoid doing. Currently, we associate the
> printers to the users and the printers are installed automatically on the
> workstation upon login. Will I loose this functionality by moving to OES
> Linux. I'dont mind pushing the ipp client to the workstations with zen but
> I want to avoid having them to the the install through the web
> browser...will the printers still install automatically?
You could look into iPrint Client Management, which gives similar
functionality to the Remote Printer Management that NDPS has.
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/2974100.htm
Or if you have ZEN, you can also install iPrint printers using ZEN
policies in addition to using ZEN to push down the iPrint client.
--
Joe Marton
Novell Support Forum SysOp
Novell does not officially monitor these forums!
> That's kind of what I want to avoid doing. Currently, we associate the
> printers to the users and the printers are installed automatically on the
> workstation upon login. Will I loose this functionality by moving to OES
> Linux. I'dont mind pushing the ipp client to the workstations with zen but
> I want to avoid having them to the the install through the web
> browser...will the printers still install automatically?
You could look into iPrint Client Management, which gives similar
functionality to the Remote Printer Management that NDPS has.
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/search/searchtid.cgi?/2974100.htm
Or if you have ZEN, you can also install iPrint printers using ZEN
policies in addition to using ZEN to push down the iPrint client.
--
Joe Marton
Novell Support Forum SysOp
Novell does not officially monitor these forums!