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NDPS install on NW5.1SP4 server in 95% NW6.5 tree

I have roughly 30 NW 6.5 SP5 servers in my tree edir 8.7.3.8, but still
have 2 NW 5.1 SP4 edir 8.6.2 servers that will be retired in 6 months when
the sites closes. Since these sites are closing, we did not want to go to
the hassle to upgrade the servers to 6.5 when we did the rest of the tree
last year.

However, something came up recently where I have to remove IPX from the
entire network, which has been done with all servers except these 2 servers
and our master replica holder which is running NW6.5.

I still have to support printing for a few more months and these servers is
still 100% queue based printing, so I need to install NDPS on Netware 5.1.

The question is, that we went to NDPS at the same time we upgraded to
Netware 6.5. I am unsure at this point if I try installing NDPS for netware
5.1 on this server if it will mess up the current schema extentions for the
current NDPS(6.5) and iprint for netware 6.5. I am unsure if there were any
schema extensions for NDPS installed in the tree prior to it being upgraded
to Netware 6.5.

I do not want to bother with iprint for netware 5.1, just regular NDPS.

1. will this bring up any issues with the schema or edir?
2. HOW? do I do this? I seem to remember that in Netware 5.1 when you
install NDPS, you did it through NWConfig, and in NW 6.5 you did it though
the Remote deployment GUI (autorun CD).
3. Can I upgrade these netware 5.1SP4 servers to edir 8.7.3.8, or do I
first have to do something else (higher service pack?). Would it even be
worth the hassle?

Thanks,
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Re: NDPS install on NW5.1SP4 server in 95% NW6.5 tree

NDPS came standard on NW 5.1. It was the printing solution for NW 5.1.
iPrint for NW 5.1 was an add on product...

The schema should not come into play. The NW 6.5 servers modified the
existing schema with latest attributes and assignments when you installed
6.5 in the tree. This should be okay...

I assume from question 2 that the NW 5.1 servers don't have NDPS installed.
In this case you can do a "post" install of the product. However I would
be sensitive to the SP after that. Here is the scenario. If you install
NDPS from the FCS shipping CD for NW5.1, you basically get that code base
(FCS NW 5.1 with no support packs for NDPS) So, you would want to post
install, then I would apply SP8 for NW 5.1 mainly because it has more fixes
and is more stable than you SP4 server..

The eDirectory upgrade is something you would have to check on. I would
have to weigh out the effort with doing this and then retiring the servers.
Seems like a lot of work, just to shut it down in a few months...

However, you don't say it, but it seems like you are installing NDPS so you
can get away from IPX?? Have you considered hosting the printing for
these sights on one of the NW 6.5 server. This might buy you the time
until the 2 servers are shut down. Then you don't have to worry about
it..??

>>> On 10/9/2006 at 7:10 AM, in message

<pTrWg.8997$0h7.5628@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>,
<R.Heuiman@castlebuildingservices.com> wrote:
> I have roughly 30 NW 6.5 SP5 servers in my tree edir 8.7.3.8, but still
> have 2 NW 5.1 SP4 edir 8.6.2 servers that will be retired in 6 months
> when
> the sites closes. Since these sites are closing, we did not want to go
> to
> the hassle to upgrade the servers to 6.5 when we did the rest of the
> tree
> last year.
>
> However, something came up recently where I have to remove IPX from the
> entire network, which has been done with all servers except these 2
> servers
> and our master replica holder which is running NW6.5.
>
> I still have to support printing for a few more months and these servers
> is
> still 100% queue based printing, so I need to install NDPS on Netware
> 5.1.
>
> The question is, that we went to NDPS at the same time we upgraded to
> Netware 6.5. I am unsure at this point if I try installing NDPS for
> netware
> 5.1 on this server if it will mess up the current schema extentions for
> the
> current NDPS(6.5) and iprint for netware 6.5. I am unsure if there were
> any
> schema extensions for NDPS installed in the tree prior to it being
> upgraded
> to Netware 6.5.
>
> I do not want to bother with iprint for netware 5.1, just regular NDPS.
>
> 1. will this bring up any issues with the schema or edir?
> 2. HOW? do I do this? I seem to remember that in Netware 5.1 when you
> install NDPS, you did it through NWConfig, and in NW 6.5 you did it
> though
> the Remote deployment GUI (autorun CD).
> 3. Can I upgrade these netware 5.1SP4 servers to edir 8.7.3.8, or do I
> first have to do something else (higher service pack?). Would it even be
> worth the hassle?
>
> Thanks,

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Re: NDPS install on NW5.1SP4 server in 95% NW6.5 tree

R.Heuiman@castlebuildingservices.com wrote:

>3. Can I upgrade these netware 5.1SP4 servers to edir 8.7.3.8, or do I
>first have to do something else (higher service pack?). Would it even be
>worth the hassle?


Just to add to iprintrox comments, I would consider upgrading your server
to SP8 with a higher priority than installing eDir 8.7.3.8, at least of
you still consider installing NDPS on the 5.1 server(s).
In fact, installing SP8 will bring your NDPS components up to date which
gives you at least 2 significant advanatges:

1) You will automatically use thew newer SNMP enabled gateway NDPSGW.NLM
rather than the obsolete, slow and less functional PH.NLM

2) You can actually configure your NDPS from the same iManager you use to
configure iPrint on your 6.5 servers (as long as you don't insist on using
iPrint specific features on your 5.1 servers).

As for the eDirectory upgrade, it might be of interrest for eDirectory
uniformity considerations (this can be important if you have NMAS
installed on your clients), but from the NDPS point of view, it will be
irrelevant and not needed.

--
Marcel Cox (using XanaNews 1.18.1.3)
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Re: NDPS install on NW5.1SP4 server in 95% NW6.5 tree

> However, you don't say it, but it seems like you are installing NDPS so you
> can get away from IPX?? Have you considered hosting the printing for
> these sights on one of the NW 6.5 server. This might buy you the time
> until the 2 servers are shut down. Then you don't have to worry about
> it..??


That is exactly right. I did think that however, to service the print
queues on an existing server, the server had to be in the same container as
the print queues, or same volume?

Could I have a remote NW6.5 server's NDPS manager service the queues of
this NW5.1 server even though it is in a different OU?
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