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User Queue Management

What is the easiest way to give a group the ability to delete/pause print
jobs. They are running XP and login using the novell client. Is there a
way to make it native to the IPP print queue's that are setup on the XP
machines to just allow the user to delete from that queue? Is there an XP
tool they could use? Lastly, would adding them as manager for iprint queu
in iManage let them do more than just control print jobs?

Thanks,


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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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User Queue Management

Unfortunately, giving the users manager rights would give them more
ability on the printer than just controlling print jobs.

Sounds like you want a job manager of some sort, that just allows
management of the jobs on the printer, nothing else. That right???


> What is the easiest way to give a group the ability to delete/pause

print
> jobs. They are running XP and login using the novell client. Is there

a
> way to make it native to the IPP print queue's that are setup on the XP
> machines to just allow the user to delete from that queue? Is there an

XP
> tool they could use? Lastly, would adding them as manager for iprint

queu
> in iManage let them do more than just control print jobs?
>
> Thanks,
>
>


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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: User Queue Management

That's all

<iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
news:rJojf.9$kv4.1@janeway.provo.novell.com...
> Unfortunately, giving the users manager rights would give them more
> ability on the printer than just controlling print jobs.
>
> Sounds like you want a job manager of some sort, that just allows
> management of the jobs on the printer, nothing else. That right???
>
>
>> What is the easiest way to give a group the ability to delete/pause

> print
>> jobs. They are running XP and login using the novell client. Is there

> a
>> way to make it native to the IPP print queue's that are setup on the XP
>> machines to just allow the user to delete from that queue? Is there an

> XP
>> tool they could use? Lastly, would adding them as manager for iprint

> queu
>> in iManage let them do more than just control print jobs?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>

>



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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: User Queue Management

I put this in as a defect/enhancement...

>>> On 12/2/2005 at 8:23:00 am, in message

<oFZjf.878$ME5.727@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>, Tom<Tom@nospam.com>
wrote:
> That's all
>
> <iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
> news:rJojf.9$kv4.1@janeway.provo.novell.com...
>> Unfortunately, giving the users manager rights would give them more
>> ability on the printer than just controlling print jobs.
>>
>> Sounds like you want a job manager of some sort, that just allows
>> management of the jobs on the printer, nothing else. That right???
>>
>>
>>> What is the easiest way to give a group the ability to delete/pause

>> print
>>> jobs. They are running XP and login using the novell client. Is there

>> a
>>> way to make it native to the IPP print queue's that are setup on the XP
>>> machines to just allow the user to delete from that queue? Is there an

>> XP
>>> tool they could use? Lastly, would adding them as manager for iprint

>> queu
>>> in iManage let them do more than just control print jobs?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>

>>

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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: User Queue Management

I guess Microsoft upped them there. How about a method that would fool the
users into thinking that's all they could do?

"iprintrox" <iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
news:4390100B.E03D.00DE.0@iprint.novell.com...
>I put this in as a defect/enhancement...
>
>>>> On 12/2/2005 at 8:23:00 am, in message

> <oFZjf.878$ME5.727@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>, Tom<Tom@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>> That's all
>>
>> <iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
>> news:rJojf.9$kv4.1@janeway.provo.novell.com...
>>> Unfortunately, giving the users manager rights would give them more
>>> ability on the printer than just controlling print jobs.
>>>
>>> Sounds like you want a job manager of some sort, that just allows
>>> management of the jobs on the printer, nothing else. That right???
>>>
>>>
>>>> What is the easiest way to give a group the ability to delete/pause
>>> print
>>>> jobs. They are running XP and login using the novell client. Is there
>>> a
>>>> way to make it native to the IPP print queue's that are setup on the XP
>>>> machines to just allow the user to delete from that queue? Is there an
>>> XP
>>>> tool they could use? Lastly, would adding them as manager for iprint
>>> queu
>>>> in iManage let them do more than just control print jobs?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>



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Re: User Queue Management

Found a work-around!!. How comfortable are you with editing xml
files..???

Located in the sys:\tomcat\4\webapps\nps\portal\modules\iPrint\install\
directory there is a file iPrint.xml. Within this xml file there is
a "book" section that defines "iPrint.Manage Printer" IF you take this
section, copy it and past as is below where it exist, then modify the
copied section to only include page-assignments of "iPrint.JobList"
and "iPrint.RetainedJobList". Then also change the "id" section for
this copy as well as the "display-name-key" section. In my case I just
tagged the word "Jobs" on the end of the string..

SO <id>iPrint.Manage Printer</id> became <id>iPrint.Manage Printer
Jobs</id>

and
<display-name-key>TaskDisplayName.ManagePrinter</display-name-key>
became
<display-name-key>TaskDisplayName.ManagePrinterJobs</display-name-key>

After this change, make sure to stop and restart tomcat... You should
see the new task...
> I guess Microsoft upped them there. How about a method that would fool

the
> users into thinking that's all they could do?
>
> "iprintrox" <iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
> news:4390100B.E03D.00DE.0@iprint.novell.com...
> >I put this in as a defect/enhancement...
> >
> >>>> On 12/2/2005 at 8:23:00 am, in message

> > <oFZjf.878$ME5.727@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>, Tom<Tom@nospam.com>
> > wrote:
> >> That's all
> >>
> >> <iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
> >> news:rJojf.9$kv4.1@janeway.provo.novell.com...
> >>> Unfortunately, giving the users manager rights would give them more
> >>> ability on the printer than just controlling print jobs.
> >>>
> >>> Sounds like you want a job manager of some sort, that just allows
> >>> management of the jobs on the printer, nothing else. That right???
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> What is the easiest way to give a group the ability to delete/pause
> >>> print
> >>>> jobs. They are running XP and login using the novell client. Is

there
> >>> a
> >>>> way to make it native to the IPP print queue's that are setup on

the XP
> >>>> machines to just allow the user to delete from that queue? Is

there an
> >>> XP
> >>>> tool they could use? Lastly, would adding them as manager for

iprint
> >>> queu
> >>>> in iManage let them do more than just control print jobs?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>

>
>


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Anonymous_User Absent Member.
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Re: User Queue Management

That's pretty cool! So modify the XML and give them job manager rights?
Not too comfortable but can give it a try. Is there an easy way to host a
separate page for testing?

<iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
news:n_0kf.18$ep6.14@janeway.provo.novell.com...
> Found a work-around!!. How comfortable are you with editing xml
> files..???
>
> Located in the sys:\tomcat\4\webapps\nps\portal\modules\iPrint\install\
> directory there is a file iPrint.xml. Within this xml file there is
> a "book" section that defines "iPrint.Manage Printer" IF you take this
> section, copy it and past as is below where it exist, then modify the
> copied section to only include page-assignments of "iPrint.JobList"
> and "iPrint.RetainedJobList". Then also change the "id" section for
> this copy as well as the "display-name-key" section. In my case I just
> tagged the word "Jobs" on the end of the string..
>
> SO <id>iPrint.Manage Printer</id> became <id>iPrint.Manage Printer
> Jobs</id>
>
> and
> <display-name-key>TaskDisplayName.ManagePrinter</display-name-key>
> became
> <display-name-key>TaskDisplayName.ManagePrinterJobs</display-name-key>
>
> After this change, make sure to stop and restart tomcat... You should
> see the new task...
>> I guess Microsoft upped them there. How about a method that would fool

> the
>> users into thinking that's all they could do?
>>
>> "iprintrox" <iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
>> news:4390100B.E03D.00DE.0@iprint.novell.com...
>> >I put this in as a defect/enhancement...
>> >
>> >>>> On 12/2/2005 at 8:23:00 am, in message
>> > <oFZjf.878$ME5.727@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>, Tom<Tom@nospam.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> That's all
>> >>
>> >> <iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:rJojf.9$kv4.1@janeway.provo.novell.com...
>> >>> Unfortunately, giving the users manager rights would give them more
>> >>> ability on the printer than just controlling print jobs.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sounds like you want a job manager of some sort, that just allows
>> >>> management of the jobs on the printer, nothing else. That right???
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> What is the easiest way to give a group the ability to delete/pause
>> >>> print
>> >>>> jobs. They are running XP and login using the novell client. Is

> there
>> >>> a
>> >>>> way to make it native to the IPP print queue's that are setup on

> the XP
>> >>>> machines to just allow the user to delete from that queue? Is

> there an
>> >>> XP
>> >>>> tool they could use? Lastly, would adding them as manager for

> iprint
>> >>> queu
>> >>>> in iManage let them do more than just control print jobs?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>

>>
>>

>



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