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iPrint Direct Printing

I have a question about enabling iPrint Direct Printing. I have created
a printer WITHOUT direct printing enabled and pushed it out to users. I
then discovered that I can have users print directly to the printer
without going through the server. Since I don't need to audit print
jobs, this works for me, so I enabled Direct Printing on our printer
objects. My questions are:
1. Does this take effect immediately without having to reinstall the
printer on everyone's machine?
2. Based on my testing the "port" value of the printer in the registry
still appears to be pointed to http://server/ipp/printer. A packet trace
shows no activity between the server and the printer (except for snmp
status messages), so how does my computer know how to reach the printer
directly?
3. Where does my computer store this information? In the registry?
Thanks in advance,
Mike

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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

Answers to your questions. Yes it should happen somewhat immediately.
The newer client will indicate on the port description that it is a direct
printer. Information regarding the printer address is stored in the
registry, and when a print request is done, the iprint client determines
that the printer is designated as an iprint direct printer and then sends
the job to the printer directly.

The snmp traffic from the server to printer is for the gateway to get status
regarding the printer... The iprint client also uses some basic snmp
dialog to determine printer state and readiness when printing with iprint
direct...

>>> On 1/18/2006 at 5:50:11 am, in message

<7Qqzf.505$MB5.224@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>,
<mmi_nospam@athletics.wisc.edu> wrote:
> I have a question about enabling iPrint Direct Printing. I have created
> a printer WITHOUT direct printing enabled and pushed it out to users. I
>
> then discovered that I can have users print directly to the printer
> without going through the server. Since I don't need to audit print
> jobs, this works for me, so I enabled Direct Printing on our printer
> objects. My questions are:
> 1. Does this take effect immediately without having to reinstall the
> printer on everyone's machine?
> 2. Based on my testing the "port" value of the printer in the registry
> still appears to be pointed to http://server/ipp/printer. A packet
> trace
> shows no activity between the server and the printer (except for snmp
> status messages), so how does my computer know how to reach the printer
> directly?
> 3. Where does my computer store this information? In the registry?
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike

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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

This is of interest to me...how do you enable direct printing on the
existing printer objects?

"iprintrox" <iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
news:43CE031C.E03D.00DE.0@iprint.novell.com...
> Answers to your questions. Yes it should happen somewhat immediately.
> The newer client will indicate on the port description that it is a direct
> printer. Information regarding the printer address is stored in the
> registry, and when a print request is done, the iprint client determines
> that the printer is designated as an iprint direct printer and then sends
> the job to the printer directly.
>
> The snmp traffic from the server to printer is for the gateway to get
> status
> regarding the printer... The iprint client also uses some basic snmp
> dialog to determine printer state and readiness when printing with iprint
> direct...
>
>>>> On 1/18/2006 at 5:50:11 am, in message

> <7Qqzf.505$MB5.224@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>,
> <mmi_nospam@athletics.wisc.edu> wrote:
>> I have a question about enabling iPrint Direct Printing. I have created
>> a printer WITHOUT direct printing enabled and pushed it out to users. I
>>
>> then discovered that I can have users print directly to the printer
>> without going through the server. Since I don't need to audit print
>> jobs, this works for me, so I enabled Direct Printing on our printer
>> objects. My questions are:
>> 1. Does this take effect immediately without having to reinstall the
>> printer on everyone's machine?
>> 2. Based on my testing the "port" value of the printer in the registry
>> still appears to be pointed to http://server/ipp/printer. A packet
>> trace
>> shows no activity between the server and the printer (except for snmp
>> status messages), so how does my computer know how to reach the printer
>> directly?
>> 3. Where does my computer store this information? In the registry?
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Mike



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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

One of two ways:
1. In iManager, modify the printer object/client support tab/iprint
direct. Just check the box that says "Enable iPrint Direct Printing".

OR, if you want to enable direct printing on multiple printers
simultaneously:
2. Modify the print manager object/printer agents tab/services. Check
the boxes in the "iPrint Direct" column.

Mike


> This is of interest to me...how do you enable direct printing on the
> existing printer objects?
>
> "iprintrox" <iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
> news:43CE031C.E03D.00DE.0@iprint.novell.com...
> > Answers to your questions. Yes it should happen somewhat

immediately.
> > The newer client will indicate on the port description that it is a

direct
> > printer. Information regarding the printer address is stored in the
> > registry, and when a print request is done, the iprint client

determines
> > that the printer is designated as an iprint direct printer and then

sends
> > the job to the printer directly.
> >
> > The snmp traffic from the server to printer is for the gateway to get
> > status
> > regarding the printer... The iprint client also uses some basic snmp
> > dialog to determine printer state and readiness when printing with

iprint
> > direct...
> >
> >>>> On 1/18/2006 at 5:50:11 am, in message

> > <7Qqzf.505$MB5.224@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>,
> > <mmi_nospam@athletics.wisc.edu> wrote:
> >> I have a question about enabling iPrint Direct Printing. I have

created
> >> a printer WITHOUT direct printing enabled and pushed it out to

users. I
> >>
> >> then discovered that I can have users print directly to the printer
> >> without going through the server. Since I don't need to audit print
> >> jobs, this works for me, so I enabled Direct Printing on our printer
> >> objects. My questions are:
> >> 1. Does this take effect immediately without having to reinstall the
> >> printer on everyone's machine?
> >> 2. Based on my testing the "port" value of the printer in the

registry
> >> still appears to be pointed to http://server/ipp/printer. A packet
> >> trace
> >> shows no activity between the server and the printer (except for snmp
> >> status messages), so how does my computer know how to reach the

printer
> >> directly?
> >> 3. Where does my computer store this information? In the registry?
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Mike

>
>


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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

For #1 I have "Enable Iprint Support" but not "Enable iPrint Direct
Printing".

For #2 I have no "Services" under the Printer Agents tab.

What am I missing here? A plugin or something?


<mmi_nospam@athletics.wisc.edu> wrote in message
news:Rn5Bf.1513$W54.346@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com...
> One of two ways:
> 1. In iManager, modify the printer object/client support tab/iprint
> direct. Just check the box that says "Enable iPrint Direct Printing".
>
> OR, if you want to enable direct printing on multiple printers
> simultaneously:
> 2. Modify the print manager object/printer agents tab/services. Check
> the boxes in the "iPrint Direct" column.
>
> Mike
>
>
>> This is of interest to me...how do you enable direct printing on the
>> existing printer objects?
>>
>> "iprintrox" <iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
>> news:43CE031C.E03D.00DE.0@iprint.novell.com...
>> > Answers to your questions. Yes it should happen somewhat

> immediately.
>> > The newer client will indicate on the port description that it is a

> direct
>> > printer. Information regarding the printer address is stored in the
>> > registry, and when a print request is done, the iprint client

> determines
>> > that the printer is designated as an iprint direct printer and then

> sends
>> > the job to the printer directly.
>> >
>> > The snmp traffic from the server to printer is for the gateway to get
>> > status
>> > regarding the printer... The iprint client also uses some basic snmp
>> > dialog to determine printer state and readiness when printing with

> iprint
>> > direct...
>> >
>> >>>> On 1/18/2006 at 5:50:11 am, in message
>> > <7Qqzf.505$MB5.224@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>,
>> > <mmi_nospam@athletics.wisc.edu> wrote:
>> >> I have a question about enabling iPrint Direct Printing. I have

> created
>> >> a printer WITHOUT direct printing enabled and pushed it out to

> users. I
>> >>
>> >> then discovered that I can have users print directly to the printer
>> >> without going through the server. Since I don't need to audit print
>> >> jobs, this works for me, so I enabled Direct Printing on our printer
>> >> objects. My questions are:
>> >> 1. Does this take effect immediately without having to reinstall the
>> >> printer on everyone's machine?
>> >> 2. Based on my testing the "port" value of the printer in the

> registry
>> >> still appears to be pointed to http://server/ipp/printer. A packet
>> >> trace
>> >> shows no activity between the server and the printer (except for snmp
>> >> status messages), so how does my computer know how to reach the

> printer
>> >> directly?
>> >> 3. Where does my computer store this information? In the registry?
>> >> Thanks in advance,
>> >> Mike

>>
>>

>



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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

Which version of iManager are you using? I see thse options using
iManager 2.5.

> For #1 I have "Enable Iprint Support" but not "Enable iPrint Direct
> Printing".
>
> For #2 I have no "Services" under the Printer Agents tab.
>
> What am I missing here? A plugin or something?
>
>
> <mmi_nospam@athletics.wisc.edu> wrote in message
> news:Rn5Bf.1513$W54.346@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com...
> > One of two ways:
> > 1. In iManager, modify the printer object/client support tab/iprint
> > direct. Just check the box that says "Enable iPrint Direct Printing".
> >
> > OR, if you want to enable direct printing on multiple printers
> > simultaneously:
> > 2. Modify the print manager object/printer agents tab/services. Check
> > the boxes in the "iPrint Direct" column.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >> This is of interest to me...how do you enable direct printing on the
> >> existing printer objects?
> >>
> >> "iprintrox" <iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
> >> news:43CE031C.E03D.00DE.0@iprint.novell.com...
> >> > Answers to your questions. Yes it should happen somewhat

> > immediately.
> >> > The newer client will indicate on the port description that it is a

> > direct
> >> > printer. Information regarding the printer address is stored in

the
> >> > registry, and when a print request is done, the iprint client

> > determines
> >> > that the printer is designated as an iprint direct printer and then

> > sends
> >> > the job to the printer directly.
> >> >
> >> > The snmp traffic from the server to printer is for the gateway to

get
> >> > status
> >> > regarding the printer... The iprint client also uses some basic

snmp
> >> > dialog to determine printer state and readiness when printing with

> > iprint
> >> > direct...
> >> >
> >> >>>> On 1/18/2006 at 5:50:11 am, in message
> >> > <7Qqzf.505$MB5.224@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>,
> >> > <mmi_nospam@athletics.wisc.edu> wrote:
> >> >> I have a question about enabling iPrint Direct Printing. I have

> > created
> >> >> a printer WITHOUT direct printing enabled and pushed it out to

> > users. I
> >> >>
> >> >> then discovered that I can have users print directly to the

printer
> >> >> without going through the server. Since I don't need to audit

print
> >> >> jobs, this works for me, so I enabled Direct Printing on our

printer
> >> >> objects. My questions are:
> >> >> 1. Does this take effect immediately without having to reinstall

the
> >> >> printer on everyone's machine?
> >> >> 2. Based on my testing the "port" value of the printer in the

> > registry
> >> >> still appears to be pointed to http://server/ipp/printer. A

packet
> >> >> trace
> >> >> shows no activity between the server and the printer (except for

snmp
> >> >> status messages), so how does my computer know how to reach the

> > printer
> >> >> directly?
> >> >> 3. Where does my computer store this information? In the

registry?
> >> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> >> Mike
> >>
> >>

> >

>
>


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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

Yes, I have 2.5...Version 2.5.20051102 to be exact.

<mmi_nospam@athletics.wisc.edu> wrote in message
news:7mNBf.742$IK1.540@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com...
> Which version of iManager are you using? I see thse options using
> iManager 2.5.
>
>> For #1 I have "Enable Iprint Support" but not "Enable iPrint Direct
>> Printing".
>>
>> For #2 I have no "Services" under the Printer Agents tab.
>>
>> What am I missing here? A plugin or something?
>>
>>
>> <mmi_nospam@athletics.wisc.edu> wrote in message
>> news:Rn5Bf.1513$W54.346@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com...
>> > One of two ways:
>> > 1. In iManager, modify the printer object/client support tab/iprint
>> > direct. Just check the box that says "Enable iPrint Direct Printing".
>> >
>> > OR, if you want to enable direct printing on multiple printers
>> > simultaneously:
>> > 2. Modify the print manager object/printer agents tab/services. Check
>> > the boxes in the "iPrint Direct" column.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>> >> This is of interest to me...how do you enable direct printing on the
>> >> existing printer objects?
>> >>
>> >> "iprintrox" <iprintrox@iprint.novell.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:43CE031C.E03D.00DE.0@iprint.novell.com...
>> >> > Answers to your questions. Yes it should happen somewhat
>> > immediately.
>> >> > The newer client will indicate on the port description that it is a
>> > direct
>> >> > printer. Information regarding the printer address is stored in

> the
>> >> > registry, and when a print request is done, the iprint client
>> > determines
>> >> > that the printer is designated as an iprint direct printer and then
>> > sends
>> >> > the job to the printer directly.
>> >> >
>> >> > The snmp traffic from the server to printer is for the gateway to

> get
>> >> > status
>> >> > regarding the printer... The iprint client also uses some basic

> snmp
>> >> > dialog to determine printer state and readiness when printing with
>> > iprint
>> >> > direct...
>> >> >
>> >> >>>> On 1/18/2006 at 5:50:11 am, in message
>> >> > <7Qqzf.505$MB5.224@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com>,
>> >> > <mmi_nospam@athletics.wisc.edu> wrote:
>> >> >> I have a question about enabling iPrint Direct Printing. I have
>> > created
>> >> >> a printer WITHOUT direct printing enabled and pushed it out to
>> > users. I
>> >> >>
>> >> >> then discovered that I can have users print directly to the

> printer
>> >> >> without going through the server. Since I don't need to audit

> print
>> >> >> jobs, this works for me, so I enabled Direct Printing on our

> printer
>> >> >> objects. My questions are:
>> >> >> 1. Does this take effect immediately without having to reinstall

> the
>> >> >> printer on everyone's machine?
>> >> >> 2. Based on my testing the "port" value of the printer in the
>> > registry
>> >> >> still appears to be pointed to http://server/ipp/printer. A

> packet
>> >> >> trace
>> >> >> shows no activity between the server and the printer (except for

> snmp
>> >> >> status messages), so how does my computer know how to reach the
>> > printer
>> >> >> directly?
>> >> >> 3. Where does my computer store this information? In the

> registry?
>> >> >> Thanks in advance,
>> >> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >

>>
>>

>



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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

I'm using 2.5.20050809 and I don't have those options either.

Anyone know why we're missing these options?

Jamie

> Yes, I have 2.5...Version 2.5.20051102 to be exact.
>


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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

I just found TID 10099110. We've upgraded to sp4a (not sp4) and did *not*
get the upgraded iPrint plugin that I can determine thus far.

Was it dropped from SP4a?

Jamie
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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

I keep right up on service packs, now have SP5 installed. If I go to see
what plugins and versions I have installed I see this version for iPrint:
2.0.0.20051005
So I am not sure what the problem is...hopefully someone can shed some light
here.


<jamie.smith@vac-acc.gc.ca> wrote in message
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>I just found TID 10099110. We've upgraded to sp4a (not sp4) and did *not*
> get the upgraded iPrint plugin that I can determine thus far.
>
> Was it dropped from SP4a?
>
> Jamie



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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

Maybe it got pulled back?

Thanks for the info.

Jamie

> I keep right up on service packs, now have SP5 installed. If I go to see
> what plugins and versions I have installed I see this version for iPrint:
> 2.0.0.20051005
> So I am not sure what the problem is...hopefully someone can shed some light
> here.


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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

What matters in order to get the iPrint direct print settings in iManager
is that you have the correct iPrint plugin. The version of iManager itself
is not relevant as the same plugin works with a number of different
iManager versions.
To verify what plugin versions you have, click on the "configure" icon
8the man behind the desk) and then select "Plug-in installation" ->
"Installed Novell Plug-In Modules".
The current version of the iPrint plugin is (for NW65SP5):

iPrint 1.9.0.20050804 iPrint Management Plugin for Netware.

For SP4a, I think it is also a 1.9 version, but with an older date.
If your plugin is older, then for some reason, the SP install did not
update your plugins. Maybe this depends on your server "history" and
whether it was initially an iManager 2.0x server.
However you can easily update the plugins yourself the following way:

In the support pack, in the nw65spx\PRODUCTS\IMANAGER directory, you will
find a file PLUGINS.ZIP. This file as the name indicates, contains all
current iManager plugins for the Netware SP level you are using.
Simply unzip the file and copy all the NPM files contained within it to
the SYS:tomcat\4\webapps\nps\packages directory of the NetWare server
running iManager.
The from within iManager, go to the "Configure" screen once again and
select "Plug-in Installation" -> "Available Novell Plug-in Modules"
All newer plugins that you have copied in the previous step should not be
available as installable plugins. Select all those you want to install and
install them. Then stop tomcat on your server and restart it again to make
the new plugins active. This is done with the following 2 console commands:

tc4stop
tomcat4

Wait a bit after the first command to let it finish unloading tomcat
before you start it again with the second command.

--
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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

thanks - that actually fixed another problem we were having since rolling
out SP4a: iManager would let our staff shut down printer agents but not
restart them. moving to 1.9 of iPrint NPM fixed that.

BUT

I still don't have the 'Enable iPrint Direct Printing" option.

I wonder why...

Jamie
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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

jamie.smith@vac-acc.gc.ca wrote:

>I still don't have the 'Enable iPrint Direct Printing" option.


Are your NDPS/iPrint NLMs up to date?
I wonder if maybe your support pack install did not complete correctly and
did not update iPrint at all.
Check your iPrint NLMs in SYS:SYSTEM and compare them with the following
list of what should be in SP4a:

13/07/2005 06:47 58 624 BROKER.NLM
29/07/2005 13:52 184 446 DPLSV386.NLM
31/08/2004 09:51 19 249 DPRPCNLM.NLM
26/08/2005 13:44 72 411 IPPSRVR.NLM
26/07/2005 16:38 81 924 jndps.nlm
24/08/2004 09:48 13 851 LPR2NDPS.NLM
14/07/2005 07:33 80 852 NDPSGW.NLM
25/08/2005 07:41 366 976 NDPSM.NLM
22/09/2004 06:50 11 390 NIPPED.NLM
10/05/2005 09:54 54 420 NTFYSRVR.NLM
10/05/2005 09:46 26 196 REGSRVR.NLM
11/06/2004 15:38 88 483 RMANNPD.NLM
13/07/2005 06:42 75 196 RMANSRVR.NLM


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Re: iPrint Direct Printing

thanks for the list.... I just checked and all of the listed files match
the date and size exactly but the times are either exactly 1 or 2 hours
newer. Not sure if that matters but there you go.

I restarted the iManager server and still do not have the options
mentioned. I don't need them, but I am concerned that my system isn't
working as others' are.

I am still VERY pleased that this whole issue resolved my other problem of
not being able to restart printers via iManager that has been shut down.

Jamie

> Are your NDPS/iPrint NLMs up to date?
> I wonder if maybe your support pack install did not complete correctly and
> did not update iPrint at all.
> Check your iPrint NLMs in SYS:SYSTEM and compare them with the following
> list of what should be in SP4a:


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